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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #180 on: July 03, 2023, 08:40:PM »
Surely Julie could have dispelled the bike myth her self?
Was it relevant to the murder trial how Julie returned to Caterham Road?

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #181 on: July 03, 2023, 08:56:PM »
Doubtful Bamber would be too busy to drive Julie.

Five mins - Goldhanger to TD.

Ten mins - WHF - Goldhanger - TD

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #182 on: July 03, 2023, 10:37:PM »
Was it relevant to the murder trial how Julie returned to Caterham Road?

Jeremy Bamber said he got the bike for Julie's purpose

Julie could have said " I never asked for the bike at all ,"

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #183 on: July 03, 2023, 11:13:PM »
What evidence?

His time in the witness box

I have the cross examination transcript.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #184 on: July 04, 2023, 08:38:AM »
Jeremy Bamber said he got the bike for Julie's purpose

Julie could have said " I never asked for the bike at all ,"


Indeed, but did she ever mention having said it would be a good idea for her to have one?

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #185 on: July 04, 2023, 04:36:PM »
It was Robert Boutflour I believe, who suggested Bamber had gone on foot to White House Farm and ridden the bicycle back to Bourtree Cottage.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #186 on: July 04, 2023, 10:32:PM »
It was Robert Boutflour I believe, who suggested Bamber had gone on foot to White House Farm and ridden the bicycle back to Bourtree Cottage.

Correct Steve.

Because he once witnessed Jeremy sulking and setting off walking miles home because an argument with Shelia
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #187 on: July 04, 2023, 10:33:PM »

Indeed, but did she ever mention having said it would be a good idea for her to have one?

All I can say if she never wanted one she could have mentioned it in evidence. It if anything makes the prosecution cycle theory stronger if she did mention she never wanted the cycle.

It must have been put to her on record Jeremy's reason of why he said he possessed it ?

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #188 on: July 10, 2023, 03:39:PM »
June had only recently bought the bike.

June had bought it for herself.

Bamber could afford to buy his own second hand bike.

June and Bamber were not talking to each other. Multiple sources online.

Bike arrived 2 days before the massacre.

Reason given for bike of Julie cycling home not valid.

Julie testified Bamber planned to cycle The Sea Wall.

Bamber said relationship with Julie coming to a close. No reason to get a bike.

Driving or walking to WHF not credible options.

June likely to tell Bamber to buy his own bike even if they were speaking.

Bike easy to steal as Bamber
worked at WHF.

No point Bamber buying a bike just for 30-40 minutes of cycling on one night.

The bike arriving just before the massacre gives June less time to notice and investigate.

Bamber had committed previous crimes against his family.

June would tell Bamber to drive Julie or pay for a taxi.

Bamber had a car so could easily transfer the bike.

No other bikes available for him free of charge. 

Nevill did not have a bike.

No record of Julie or Bamber  using the bike after it arrived at Head Street.

Not sure what BuboBubo is complaining about today in another thread. Here are 19 reasons.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #189 on: July 10, 2023, 03:41:PM »
If he had bought a bike instead just before the massacre, that would have not been an advantage to him.

Julie would still say she saw a bike just before the massacre. Bamber would have to justify why he bought it.

June's bike was cheaper for the 30 - 40 minutes of cycling on one occasion. 
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #190 on: July 10, 2023, 03:50:PM »
What he would not be expecting was that the relatives were aware June had a bike.

Or that AE & RB would start looking for it and making suggestions to each other and the police. After eventually seeing it at Goldhanger.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #191 on: July 10, 2023, 03:58:PM »
13 pages in. Still no confirmation

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #192 on: July 10, 2023, 04:13:PM »
Will have to compare Julie's WS to when Snow66! said June got a bike.

If he told Julie after June had bought the bike he planned to cycle, then June having a bike was a clincher for him.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #193 on: July 10, 2023, 04:20:PM »
Still do not believe he would have walked.

If June did not have a bike, he would have bought or stolen one beforehand.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #194 on: July 10, 2023, 04:25:PM »
A long list of conjecture, exaggerations, half truths, outright lies with a few irrelevant facts thrown in to lend credence to all the other bs listed. Is not conformation of anything.