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Offline Adam

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #165 on: July 03, 2023, 06:01:PM »
I thought the remote possibility that the blood in the silencer could be a mixture of Nevill and June's came post-trial, but I may be wrong. As for the bicycle I have no idea whether Jeremy borrowed or stole it.

Not asking if you know or not.

I am asking you what you think.

You were also evasive when I asked you how Bamber travelled to WHF. Of which you must have an opinion.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #166 on: July 03, 2023, 06:03:PM »
Not asking if you know or not.

I am asking you what you think.

You were also evasive when I asked you how Bamber travelled to WHF. Of which you must have an opinion.
I wasn't evasive, but told ILB that a neighbour said his car hadn't moved all night. He might well have used a bicycle but I would be guessing like everyone else.

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #167 on: July 03, 2023, 06:08:PM »
I wasn't evasive, but told ILB that a neighbour said his car hadn't moved all night. He might well have used a bicycle but I would be guessing like everyone else.

Have you got more details of the neighbour?

If he had been awake all night & not heard the car, that is important.

If he had slept & the car was just  in the same place the following morning, that means nothing.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2023, 06:09:PM by Adam »
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #168 on: July 03, 2023, 06:16:PM »
I thought the remote possibility that the blood in the silencer could be a mixture of Nevill and June's came post-trial, but I may be wrong. As for the bicycle I have no idea whether Jeremy borrowed or stole it.


Nor I, Steve, so I've had to weigh up the probabilities of both, whilst considering how likely it was that JB and June weren't speaking at all. If they weren't -and for me, it's a very big "IF"- then it's quite likely that JB might have stolen it out of spite. However, from what we know of June, I find it more than hard to believe she'd have cut ties with her son, whatever he'd done, to the point at which conversation was zero. I think she'd have been sad and disappointed, but maintaining total silence, on a daily basis, especially when JB visited WHF regularly, if not daily. I don't think such behaviour can be applied to June. Of course, I can't vouch for JB, but there would certainly have needed to be a conversation had he asked to borrow the bike for Julie.

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #169 on: July 03, 2023, 06:21:PM »
Have you got more details of the neighbour?

If he had been awake all night & not heard the car, that is important.

If he had slept & the car was just  in the same place the following morning, that means nothing.

Then again if the neighbour was awake all night, he would have heard Bamber leave to meet the police.

The neighbour is of no relevance.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #170 on: July 03, 2023, 06:24:PM »

Nor I, Steve, so I've had to weigh up the probabilities of both, whilst considering how likely it was that JB and June weren't speaking at all. If they weren't -and for me, it's a very big "IF"- then it's quite likely that JB might have stolen it out of spite. However, from what we know of June, I find it more than hard to believe she'd have cut ties with her son, whatever he'd done, to the point at which conversation was zero. I think she'd have been sad and disappointed, but maintaining total silence, on a daily basis, especially when JB visited WHF regularly, if not daily. I don't think such behaviour can be applied to June. Of course, I can't vouch for JB, but there would certainly have needed to be a conversation had he asked to borrow the bike for Julie.

Do you think Bamber got the bike on Sunday to -

Commit the massacre on Monday.

Do a trial cycle run on Monday.

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With the bike at Goldhanger from Sunday, I don't believe Monday was slated for nothing.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2023, 06:55:PM by Adam »
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #171 on: July 03, 2023, 06:28:PM »
If he planned to commit the massacre on Monday night/Tuesday morning, he would certainly just take the bike.

It would only be missing from WHF for about 30 hours.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2023, 06:40:PM by Adam »
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #172 on: July 03, 2023, 06:36:PM »
The only reasons I can think for not going ahead on Monday are -

He wanted to do a cycle trial run instead.

Sheila was not docile enough.

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Either way he was certainly in a 'tonights the night' mode when ringing Julie on Tuesday.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2023, 06:40:PM by Adam »
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #173 on: July 03, 2023, 07:01:PM »
Do you think Bamber got the bike on Sunday to -

Commit the massacre on Monday.

Do a trial run on Monday.

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With the bike at Goldhanger from Sunday, I don't believe Monday was slated for nothing.


Is it known if he explained his need for it to anyone? I'm guessing not, but it would surely have had to be there for Julie's use if he'd given that as a reason.

As Julie hasn't noted anything suspicious out his behaviour on Sunday, it suggests all was as it usually was.

It maybe that he wanted Julie out of the way before he took action. The last thing he'd have wanted was Julie trying to prevent his plan.

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #174 on: July 03, 2023, 07:02:PM »
Julie's WS says he planned to do a trial cycle ride - Monday.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #175 on: July 03, 2023, 07:08:PM »
Julie's WS says he planned to do a trial cycle ride - Monday.


Do we know how Julie got to the station on Monday? He could have driven her to the station, come back via Goldhanger and swapped the car for the bike?

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #176 on: July 03, 2023, 07:12:PM »
Have you got more details of the neighbour?

If he had been awake all night & not heard the car, that is important.

If he had slept & the car was just  in the same place the following morning, that means nothing.
From memory a neighbour stated he/she had not seen the car move all night. That's all I can recall, apart from this excerpt, which I post here: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Jeremy_Bamber/H8U7AwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover

It's in Chapter 5: The Prosecution's Argument.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #177 on: July 03, 2023, 08:15:PM »
From memory a neighbour stated he/she had not seen the car move all night. That's all I can recall, apart from this excerpt, which I post here: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Jeremy_Bamber/H8U7AwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover

It's in Chapter 5: The Prosecution's Argument.

In fairness it's most likely though if he used the car the neighbour would be asleep at the time he set off.

Watch the theroux documentary. David Kennedy was Jeremy Bambers neighbour in 1985

He doesn't say much really
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #178 on: July 03, 2023, 08:20:PM »
Apologies Pete Kennedy I think his name was
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #179 on: July 03, 2023, 08:20:PM »
Surely Julie could have dispelled the bike myth her self?
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