Confirmation June's bike was stolen.

[snow66!]

No,its actually in AEs witness statement,looking for the bike because she didn't think the one that the police had shown her was Junes.Strange statement!

[Adam]

And as for stealing the bike,this would have been very risky.Just suppose June noticed it was missing and told someone outside the family,a farm worker for example who then tells other farm workers.

In this case they would be witnesses that the bike was taken without Junes knowledge,then the games up for Bamber,proving that he stole the bike to use in the murders.
How could Bamber know who June had told about the bike being missing?
But,no one told the police that June was looking for her bike in the days leading up to the murders,so this means she either did not notice it had gone or Bamber did indeed ask for a loan of it for Julie to use.

June didn't work on the farm. So unlikely to engage with any farm workers.

A slim chance she would notice and tell someone. Maybe told Nevill.

That is why the bike was stolen a couple of days before the massacre. Less chance of it being missed.

[snow66!]

June didn't work on the farm. So unlikely to engage with any farm workers.

A slim chance she would notice and tell someone. Maybe told Nevill.

That is why the bike was stolen a couple of days before the massacre. Less chance of it being missed.

I see Adam.
Anyway,this story that June didn't take to the bike,where did that come from?

Where can I read about this?

[Adam]

I see Adam.
Anyway,this story that June didn't take to the bike,where did that come from?

Where can I read about this?

Only place I have read it is in Jeremy's police interviews.

[snow66!]

Only place I have it is in Jeremy's police interviews.

Thank you.

[snow66!]

OK,it is clearly stated in Robert Boutflours notes that on 11th Aug he knew that Junes bike was at Jeremy's cottage,asking the question'how long had it been there'. However on 15th Aug AE[for some reason] was pre-occupied with finding the bike and searched the farm.Sometime later both AE and RWB went to the police station with a list of written quiries,one of which was the whereabouts of Junes bike.

And low and behold on 22nd Aug AE was snooping around the back of JBs cottage and found Junes bike.

So are we to believe that RW made a mistake in his notes? And just why were the relatives looking for Junes bike,what business was it of theirs where the bike or anything else was? It wasn't their bike,yet they wanted the police to find it,why? And why didn't they simply ask JB if he knew where it was?
Why were they interfering with JBs property behind his back?
JB had apparently been selling things off from the farm or giving them away in some circumstances,why not the bike? Was it of special significance to the family?

AE even asked Barbara Wilson how much the bike cost and where it came from.Besides,June had only had the bike for three weeks before the murders,had the relatives even seen it,and if so why did it stick in their mind and need to be tracked down after her death? Didn't they have other more important things to think about?

[Adam]

Thought AE said she was looking for it at WHF but could not find it. AE was aware of the bike.

They thought Bamber may have cycled. They did not ask him about the bike as it may have alerted him about there suspisions.

[Adam]

The bike arrived the weekend before the massacre. Either Saturday or Sunday.

So at Goldhanger for 2 or 3 nights.

[Adam]

He had the option of putting the bike in his car.

Or cycling back on it via The Sea Wall - the trial run.

[David1819]

7 pages into this topic now. When will we get the confirmation?

[Roch]

7 pages into this topic now. When will we get the confirmation?

And almost 40 separate new threads, across the last three pages.

[David1819]

And almost 40 separate new threads, across the last three pages.

Being a moderator, I can only assume you wanted this since you have done absolutely nothing about it.

[Roch]

Being a moderator, I can only assume you wanted this since you have done absolutely nothing about it.

Why don't you volunteer to become a moderator?

[ngb1066]

Being a moderator, I can only assume you wanted this since you have done absolutely nothing about it.

This comment is so unhelpful.

[snow66!]

Sorry to butt in.
But if everyone has calmed down and is happy now I would like to talk about another discrepancy regarding AE.
Now,much has been said about the time at which JB phoned Julie Mugford the second time on the night of the murders. In her first statement Julie said it was about 3.30,but then changed the time to 3.15 in later statements after checking with her flat mates.
Now heres the thing,in one of AEs statements she says that on the 8th Aug when Julie gave her first statement regarding the time of the second call, that the police asked if she was sure of the time because it was very important,so Julie phoned someone there and then and changed the time to 3.15.
Yet there is no mention of 3.15 on Julie's first statement,and just why was the time of the second call important on 8th Aug? JB wasn't even a suspect,so what possible reason would the police have to tell her that the time of the call was important and to double check?

Anyway,unless I am  mistaken,AE stated that Julie changed the time from 3.30 to 3.15 the first time she was interviewed,yet this is not reflected in her first statement from 8th Aug.as far as I can see.