Confirmation June's bike was stolen.

[snow66!]

Allegedly, June bought the bike -second hand?- to make her village rounds easier. She is said not to have liked it. It's not beyond the realms of belief to suggest that JB asked If He could have it for Julie. As Julie didn't enjoy a warm and close relationship with June she'd have been very unlikely to have thanked June.

Well,Adam calls this topic  'confirmation that June's bike was stolen' Jane,and claims over and over again that JB and June were not on speaking terms at the time.

[snow66!]

And you are quite right Adam,just when did JB decide to carry out the crime using a bike and did this just happen to coincide with June buying her bike?

When did he tell Julie that he intended to use a bike? How did he know when Sheila and the boys would be visiting? Just when did he intend to buy the bike in preparation?
You are right,we need to know when June bought the bike and also when Bamber told Julie of his plan to use a bike in the execution of the murders.

Then see what it all suggests?

[ILB]

They are facts.

Agree that me believing walking or driving not credible is an opinion.

Again, in your opinion they are

[snow66!]

OK,this is what Julie said in her statement ----- 'about June 1985''---'He said that he would use a cycle to do it and would do a trial run to see how long it would take.He thought it would take about 15 minutes one way'

So,according to Julie he had decided to use a bike by June.

Now when did June buy her bike?

[ILB]

Adam just expects people to believe what ever he says as gospel

[ILB]

At times he puts valid points across, but if I don't agree with them in my case he snipes such phrases as " you are Bambers mate" or you have been to prison "

[snow66!]

Adam just expects people to believe what ever he says as gospel

That simply wont work ILB.Not if it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

[ILB]

That simply wont work ILB.Not if it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Agree

It also stifles sensible debate

[Adam]

OK,this is what Julie said in her statement ----- 'about June 1985''---'He said that he would use a cycle to do it and would do a trial run to see how long it would take.He thought it would take about 15 minutes one way'

So,according to Julie he had decided to use a bike by June.

Now when did June buy her bike?

Does not matter when she bought it.

He could buy his own bike if need be.

[ILB]

Does not matter when she bought it.

He could buy his own bike if need be.

Borrowed or buying a bike doesn't prove guilt.

If he had had his own bike bought by his own money at his cottage the prosecution would have used it as a prosecution narrative

[Adam]

It would be good to get dates of -

When June bought the bike.

When Bamber found out Sheila & the twins were staying.

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Probably similar times.

[ILB]

Apparently a neighour of Jeremy Bamber said " his car was outside his house all night "

In the theroux documentary, David Kennedy the next door neighbour of Bamber basically says " I was his neighbour at the time " then discusses about cycle routes.

He doesn't confirm he saw Bambers car there All night, so I surmise it must have been another neighbour

[Adam]

Suspect Bamber would not buy a bike until Sheila & the twins were at WHF.

Always a chance a trip will be cancelled with Sheila & two 6 year olds involved.

But he did not need to buy a bike. 

[ILB]

It would be good to get dates of -

When June bought the bike.

When Bamber found out Sheila & the twins were staying.

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Probably similar times.

The former it depends on which way you look at it.

The latter. It all depends. She was his sister. Whether from nevill, whether overhearing June speaking to nevill. Or Shelia herself. ( I look at it from your stance of June and Bamber mute with one another at all times )

Did Colin and Jeremy have a close relationship post Shelia and Colin's divorce, meet for a drink? Speak on the telephone? Any social activity of any kind?

Colin invited him to the party

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Now the key here may be trial run.
If the bike just appeared at JBs house a few days before the murders,wasn't the oppertunity to carry out a tril run limited? Especially in the busy harvest period? And as ILB has already pointed out which route could he possibly have done in fifteen minutes? Not the sea wall surely?