Sheila did not die, until after 8.10am, in bedroom...

[Hartley]

NGB: when are we going to hear of the ccrc final decision, september was it?

No Andrea, that's the deadline for JB to submit his evidence, the CCRC will then take a length of time to examine the submission prior to releasing their recommendation. It could be just a few weeks later, but could be a few months.

[andrea]

oh thanks.

just looked at my bank account on line, and was shocked to find a balance of 3.77 million in it, then i woke up 

[ngb1066]

NGB: when are we going to hear of the ccrc final decision, september was it?

Andrea   - Jeremy's team have been given until 9th September to make their final submissions.  I suspect the CCRC will then take several weeks to consider the submissions and make their final decision. It is possible there could be further delays if the CCRC decide to obtain further documents as a result of the defence submissions. 

[grahameb]

NGB: when are we going to hear of the ccrc final decision, september was it?

Andrea   - Jeremy's team have been given until 9th September to make their final submissions.  I suspect the CCRC will then take several weeks to consider the submissions and make their final decision. It is possible there could be further delays if the CCRC decide to obtain further documents as a result of the defence submissions.

I've got a couple of snails down the garden who could do the job quicker than theCCRC.

[smiffy]

Gibbons statement clearly had Neville sitting in his chair in the kitchen when he was present...which was after the raid team had entered the house...but before the photographs.

And no actually, re-reading Gibbons statement dated 23/09/85, you're lying your backside off.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,184.msg485.html#msg485

This is what he actually says:
Together with Chief Superintendent Harris, who had also attended the scene, and Force Support Unit officers, I entered the house. There I saw the body of an elderly male with his trousers partly down seated with his head slumped forward.

Which pretty much describes this photograph does it not?

NO

[Hartley]

Gibbons statement clearly had Neville sitting in his chair in the kitchen when he was present...which was after the raid team had entered the house...but before the photographs.

And no actually, re-reading Gibbons statement dated 23/09/85, you're lying your backside off.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,184.msg485.html#msg485

This is what he actually says:
Together with Chief Superintendent Harris, who had also attended the scene, and Force Support Unit officers, I entered the house. There I saw the body of an elderly male with his trousers partly down seated with his head slumped forward.

Which pretty much describes this photograph does it not?

NO

Errr yes okay then. 

[smiffy]

sitting/seated======quite  clear what that means and Nevill cannot be described in that way from viewing the picture.

[Hartley]

sitting/seated======quite  clear what that means and Nevill cannot be described in that way from viewing the picture.

Well I disagree completely, he is very much seated, even Mike describes it as being in a sitting position on his note on the photograph. But as you please, you're entitled to your opinion.

[mike tesko]

sitting/seated======quite  clear what that means and Nevill cannot be described in that way from viewing the picture.

Well I disagree completely, he is very much seated, even Mike describes it as being in a sitting position on his note on the photograph. But as you please, you're entitled to your opinion.