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Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« on: March 21, 2023, 12:28:PM »
It passed no properties.

He could avoid going within 50 yards of any properties.

The terrain was very cycle friendly.

There were no trees or hedges.  Meaning he would get full benefit of light generated by the moonlight.

He had several options of when to leave the sea wall and cycle along farm tracks towards WHF.

He had several options of which farm tracks to use to get onto the sea wall when leaving WHF.

He could arrive at the back of WHF. Meaning avoiding the cottages at the front of WHF.

He could exit from the back of WHF. Meaning he would avoid the cottages at the front of WHF.

He could arrive at the back of his cottage. Meaning avoiding properties on Fish and Head Street.

He would know the route as had lived & worked in the area for over 10 years.

He may have done a trial run a few days beforehand.

There were no hills to slow him down or make him tired.

He could cycle back to his cottage quickly if cycling at a good pace.

Impossible for any farm houses to hear a bike from such a distance away.

In 1985 there may have been less properties on Fish Street. Shortening the journey.
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2023, 12:32:PM »
Both sides will agree the cycle journey to/from WHF was very easy for Bamber.

Appreciate supporters will say 'that does not make him guilty'. However it was an unbreakable plank of the prosecution case.
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2023, 12:42:PM »
Both sides will agree the cycle journey to/from WHF was very easy for Bamber.

Appreciate supporters will say 'that does not make him guilty'. However it was an unbreakable plank of the prosecution case.

Walking was easy.

In 1985 a car journey would have even been easy. Especially in that part of the country

How many vehicles were at WHF? Believe nevill had a Citroen. Junes car. Believe they had a large work van as well didn't they?

No proof bamber stole the bike. Could have been given to him by June
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2023, 12:47:PM »
I still believe he took the astra if gulity
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2023, 01:13:PM »
Walking was easy.

In 1985 a car journey would have even been easy. Especially in that part of the country

How many vehicles were at WHF? Believe nevill had a Citroen. Junes car. Believe they had a large work van as well didn't they?

No proof bamber stole the bike. Could have been given to him by June

Why would he walk the Sea Wall route when he could cycle?

What has vehicles already at WHF got to do with how Bamber travelled?
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2023, 01:37:PM »
I still believe he took the astra if gulity

Why would he risk driving to & from WHF?
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2023, 08:27:PM »
Why would he risk driving to & from WHF?

The whole event was a risk if gulity. He was going to committ five murders. How did he know for certain how it would play out? Imagine if nevill had overpowered him.

It was 1985 in a sleepy village hamlet. I doubt anybody would have heard the car.

Also he could have left a lot earlier
 He may have drove shortly after the ten pm phonecall. Parked somewhere quietly and simply bided his time
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2023, 08:37:PM »
Interesting there are different theories.

The prosecution say he cycled via the sea wall.

Guest29835 says he walked.

ILB says he drove.
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2023, 09:41:PM »
Interesting there are different theories.

The prosecution say he cycled via the sea wall.

Guest29835 says he walked.

ILB says he drove.

It's not farfetched.

Car is a quicker option.

The adrenalin will have been pumping like no tomorrow. Especially pre massacre. He may have calmed to a degree afterwards.

He would have wanted a swift quick exit.

You have to remember it was 1985 pre Uber roads a lot quieter. Et al


Between 10pm and to the call to west there is a significant 5 hour period. We have no idea what bamber was doing or up to it gulity
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2023, 10:04:PM »
Never said it was far fetched.

I go with the prosecution case - cycled along the sea wall. Which was/is watertight.
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2023, 10:11:PM »
Never said it was far fetched.

I go with the prosecution case - cycled along the sea wall. Which was/is watertight.

It's a theory.

Bamber can't really challenge it to be fair. The same as he couldn't challenge it in regards to walking or using his car.

He had no alibi. He lived alone.
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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2023, 10:50:PM »
It's a theory.

Bamber can't really challenge it to be fair. The same as he couldn't challenge it in regards to walking or using his car.

He had no alibi. He lived alone.
I think a neighbour claimed his car never moved all night.

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Re: Summary of advantages of cycling using the Sea Wall.
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2023, 11:17:PM »
I think a neighbour claimed his car never moved all night.

Never heard of that

Heard his neighbour at the time in the Louie theroux documentary
 But I believe he was just talking about the sea wall possible routes  Don't believe he ever said anything in regards to Jeremys car
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