Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002

[campion]

       A Check (Recap) on the Cheque Frauds of Mugford & Battersby.

Re :-  Alan George Davey's Statement.
May I refer back to Lady in Red(£), Caroline's Post #129. :-
"Personally, I think Mr J threatened to charge her(JM) as an accessory unless she became a 'Witness for the Prosecution', and it all started from there."
Obviously 'Mr J' is Stan the Man, Detective Sergeant Stanley Brain Jones. How comes it, that he comes into possession of the knowledge, that Muggy and Batty had executed their cheque fraud in oxford Street?

When did this surreptitious activity take place? Was it perchance after 4/5August 1985, when Muggy hastily relocated to London after the fracas at WHF when June came by her "Blackeye"?

As Lebaleb today remarks-"Dovey says the policeman (Stan) returned with a Statement that he read and signed".

Now "I can say that", in that Statement it is alleged that Mr Dovey  says - "I can say that" twice.
This indicates, ipso facto, that the Statement was made out on Dovey's behalf by none other than( i.e. composed and written by) DS SB Jones.

Now, I ask you to consider how the said STAN came by such important and crucial knowledge of the 'Cheque Fraud Activities' of Muggy and Batty?

What we do find is a Common Denominator in the personage of -wait for it,- Begorrah and Bejabers, Hell's Teeth, it's none other than LIZ RIMINGTON. It was she who was privy to the personal affairs of the two lasses, who were to become 'Puppets on a String' in the cunning and wily stunts of Stan the Man.
The two innocent lasses had bragged to LIZ concerning their profitable activities in Oxford Street.

So "I can say" that it was LIZ, who (in confidence trick) primed up STAN on these interesting matters, and the possible ramifications of same. I.e. possible effects on career prospects.
Funny! how she just happened to have STAN's home phone no. when she rang him up on Julie's behalf, when they were together at Malcolm Water's house. From the horse's mouth (Wilkes) we read how he  ditched the evening with his beloved and duly drove pell mell in his trainers, up the A12, to set the wheels in motion for Julie's all-important (incriminating for JB) Witness Statement. (Of 32 pages?)

This in a nut ( Nat. Union of Teachers) shell is how the gorgeous( in Steve's rose tinted spectacled eyes) Julie was 'roasted and grilled by STAN, to 'cook up the evidence' to "Stitch up (frame)' Jeremy Bamber in the Case of the White House Farm Murders.
I rest my case.

[maggie]

Hi Maggie,of course a deal had been done. The banks policy was to prosecute,but I guess that wasn't an option when it is was the actual Police themselves helping the girls to clear the matter up as one of them was to be their star witness. They didn't even receive a caution! How surreal!

Hi tyler, no doubt the police tipped the bank off that they needed JM's record to be clean so as her statement could be used in court to ensure a psychopathic, cold blooded killer could be taken off the streets and banged up for life,  It would have been made clear it was their public duty to agree to this, anyway they were possibly both masons, it could have all been agreed over a round of golf.
You can see it played out in your mind's eye, we all know this is the way the police work.

[lookout]

       A Check (Recap) on the Cheque Frauds of Mugford & Battersby.

Re :-  Alan George Davey's Statement.
May I refer back to Lady in Red(£), Caroline's Post #129. :-
"Personally, I think Mr J threatened to charge her(JM) as an accessory unless she became a 'Witness for the Prosecution', and it all started from there."
Obviously 'Mr J' is Stan the Man, Detective Sergeant Stanley Brain Jones. How comes it, that he comes into possession of the knowledge, that Muggy and Batty had executed their cheque fraud in oxford Street?

When did this surreptitious activity take place? Was it perchance after 4/5August 1985, when Muggy hastily relocated to London after the fracas at WHF when June came by her "Blackeye"?

As Lebaleb today remarks-"Dovey says the policeman (Stan) returned with a Statement that he read and signed".

Now "I can say that", in that Statement it is alleged that Mr Dovey  says - "I can say that" twice.
This indicates, ipso facto, that the Statement was made out on Dovey's behalf by none other than( i.e. composed and written by) DS SB Jones.

Now, I ask you to consider how the said STAN came by such important and crucial knowledge of the 'Cheque Fraud Activities' of Muggy and Batty?

What we do find is a Common Denominator in the personage of -wait for it,- Begorrah and Bejabers, Hell's Teeth, it's none other than LIZ RIMINGTON. It was she who was privy to the personal affairs of the two lasses, who were to become 'Puppets on a String' in the cunning and wily stunts of Stan the Man.
The two innocent lasses had bragged to LIZ concerning their profitable activities in Oxford Street.

So "I can say" that it was LIZ, who (in confidence trick) primed up STAN on these interesting matters, and the possible ramifications of same. I.e. possible effects on career prospects.
Funny! how she just happened to have STAN's home phone no. when she rang him up on Julie's behalf, when they were together at Malcolm Water's house. From the horse's mouth (Wilkes) we read how he  ditched the evening with his beloved and duly drove pell mell in his trainers, up the A12, to set the wheels in motion for Julie's all-important (incriminating for JB) Witness Statement. (Of 32 pages?)

This in a nut ( Nat. Union of Teachers) shell is how the gorgeous( in Steve's rose tinted spectacled eyes) Julie was 'roasted and grilled by STAN, to 'cook up the evidence' to "Stitch up (frame)' Jeremy Bamber in the Case of the White House Farm Murders.
I rest my case.

Good morning Campion,,,that was excellent. The last time I saw the word " bejabers " was in 1970,,it was my fathers' only" swear word",besides damn,of course. But I'm sure you're not quite of that era.

[Caroline R]

       A Check (Recap) on the Cheque Frauds of Mugford & Battersby.

Re :-  Alan George Davey's Statement.
May I refer back to Lady in Red(£), Caroline's Post #129. :-
"Personally, I think Mr J threatened to charge her(JM) as an accessory unless she became a 'Witness for the Prosecution', and it all started from there."
Obviously 'Mr J' is Stan the Man, Detective Sergeant Stanley Brain Jones. How comes it, that he comes into possession of the knowledge, that Muggy and Batty had executed their cheque fraud in oxford Street?

When did this surreptitious activity take place? Was it perchance after 4/5August 1985, when Muggy hastily relocated to London after the fracas at WHF when June came by her "Blackeye"?

As Lebaleb today remarks-"Dovey says the policeman (Stan) returned with a Statement that he read and signed".

Now "I can say that", in that Statement it is alleged that Mr Dovey  says - "I can say that" twice.
This indicates, ipso facto, that the Statement was made out on Dovey's behalf by none other than( i.e. composed and written by) DS SB Jones.

Now, I ask you to consider how the said STAN came by such important and crucial knowledge of the 'Cheque Fraud Activities' of Muggy and Batty?

What we do find is a Common Denominator in the personage of -wait for it,- Begorrah and Bejabers, Hell's Teeth, it's none other than LIZ RIMINGTON. It was she who was privy to the personal affairs of the two lasses, who were to become 'Puppets on a String' in the cunning and wily stunts of Stan the Man.
The two innocent lasses had bragged to LIZ concerning their profitable activities in Oxford Street.

So "I can say" that it was LIZ, who (in confidence trick) primed up STAN on these interesting matters, and the possible ramifications of same. I.e. possible effects on career prospects.
Funny! how she just happened to have STAN's home phone no. when she rang him up on Julie's behalf, when they were together at Malcolm Water's house. From the horse's mouth (Wilkes) we read how he  ditched the evening with his beloved and duly drove pell mell in his trainers, up the A12, to set the wheels in motion for Julie's all-important (incriminating for JB) Witness Statement. (Of 32 pages?)

This in a nut ( Nat. Union of Teachers) shell is how the gorgeous( in Steve's rose tinted spectacled eyes) Julie was 'roasted and grilled by STAN, to 'cook up the evidence' to "Stitch up (frame)' Jeremy Bamber in the Case of the White House Farm Murders.
I rest my case.

Hi Campion, personally I think that once JM agreed to 'help' convict Jeremy, SJ asked her if there was anything in her past that could undermine her testimony, something that the defence could use. She had no choice but to tell him all about her shopping trip with 'Batty' (I like that

[killingeve]

       A Check (Recap) on the Cheque Frauds of Mugford & Battersby.

Re :-  Alan George Davey's Statement.
May I refer back to Lady in Red(£), Caroline's Post #129. :-
"Personally, I think Mr J threatened to charge her(JM) as an accessory unless she became a 'Witness for the Prosecution', and it all started from there."
Obviously 'Mr J' is Stan the Man, Detective Sergeant Stanley Brain Jones. How comes it, that he comes into possession of the knowledge, that Muggy and Batty had executed their cheque fraud in oxford Street?

When did this surreptitious activity take place? Was it perchance after 4/5August 1985, when Muggy hastily relocated to London after the fracas at WHF when June came by her "Blackeye"?

As Lebaleb today remarks-"Dovey says the policeman (Stan) returned with a Statement that he read and signed".

Now "I can say that", in that Statement it is alleged that Mr Dovey  says - "I can say that" twice.
This indicates, ipso facto, that the Statement was made out on Dovey's behalf by none other than( i.e. composed and written by) DS SB Jones.

Now, I ask you to consider how the said STAN came by such important and crucial knowledge of the 'Cheque Fraud Activities' of Muggy and Batty?

What we do find is a Common Denominator in the personage of -wait for it,- Begorrah and Bejabers, Hell's Teeth, it's none other than LIZ RIMINGTON. It was she who was privy to the personal affairs of the two lasses, who were to become 'Puppets on a String' in the cunning and wily stunts of Stan the Man.
The two innocent lasses had bragged to LIZ concerning their profitable activities in Oxford Street.

So "I can say" that it was LIZ, who (in confidence trick) primed up STAN on these interesting matters, and the possible ramifications of same. I.e. possible effects on career prospects.
Funny! how she just happened to have STAN's home phone no. when she rang him up on Julie's behalf, when they were together at Malcolm Water's house. From the horse's mouth (Wilkes) we read how he  ditched the evening with his beloved and duly drove pell mell in his trainers, up the A12, to set the wheels in motion for Julie's all-important (incriminating for JB) Witness Statement. (Of 32 pages?)

This in a nut ( Nat. Union of Teachers) shell is how the gorgeous( in Steve's rose tinted spectacled eyes) Julie was 'roasted and grilled by STAN, to 'cook up the evidence' to "Stitch up (frame)' Jeremy Bamber in the Case of the White House Farm Murders.
I rest my case.

Morning Campion

Great post 

[grahameb]

Hi Maggie,of course a deal had been done. The banks policy was to prosecute,but I guess that wasn't an option when it is was the actual Police themselves helping the girls to clear the matter up as one of them was to be their star witness. They didn't even receive a caution! How surreal!

I believe that the police accompanied the girls to the bank because of that reason. Banks almost always prosecute For fraud. That is their policy in order to keep down bank fraud.
I suspect the police went with the girls in order to speak to the manager about the deal they had cut with the girls concerning Bamber. Hence the police had to be there in order for this to happen?

[susan]

Hi Grahame/tyler  it is not normal for the police to escort girls who have committed a criminal act to the bank to talk on their behalf unless something in it for the police and we all know what that was.

[Caroline R]

Hi Grahame/tyler  it is not normal for the police to escort girls who have committed a criminal act to the bank to talk on their behalf unless something in it for the police and we all know what that was.

Never!! And certainly never on their day off!!

[susan]

Caroline perhaps they would have been paid overtime maybe double time

[Caroline R]

Caroline perhaps they would have been paid overtime maybe double time

I think he went on his day off Susan so he wouldn't have to fill out a report 

[campion]

Good point Caroline,
The whole episode of STAN's machinations of the 'self confessed' Cheque Fraud was carried out so surreptitiously that it begs the question how the Police were in possession of a most crucial nugget of information.

Julie had confidentially bragged to LIZ RIMINGTON, the manageress of SLOPPY JOE's, where Muggy had been a waitress and had been introduced to Jeremy, that she and BATTY had committed the daredevil escapade, of which they were confident they would not be 'brought to book'.

In reciprocation, to 'muddy the Waters', LIZ 'confided to Muggy how she had 'slept' with JB. This may well have occurred prior to Muggy going steady with Jeremy, but it was designed to alienate her from her suitor.

We know that LIZ was familiar with SB (Special Branch) Operator STAN, but it crosses my mind as to whether she was also in cahoots with the 'Rellies', since this factor would also tie in.

[lebaleb]

The first two statements of Susan battesby are different in style of writing. 'I can say that...' being used on a couple of occasions. I wonder who wrote it?
Campion, you are a talented writer.
I wonder what became of Battesby and Rimmington?

[campion]

Thank you for your circumspect post Lebaleb,

As to the whereabouts of the two girls, God (Steve!) only knows.
LIZ RIMINGTON, according to the advertising, is still manageress/chef at SLOPPY JOE'S. This could well be out of date.
It was interesting to find that both LIZ and JB were resident at Malcolm Waters' house, when they were working at Sloppy Joes and the Night Club '-The Frog and Beans' - ,respectively.
G