Alan George Dovey Statement - 20/03/2002

[Steve_uk]

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Didn't Suzette have other children who called Jeremy "Uncle"? I think Jeremy speculated about murder but deep down thought he wouldn't be capable of it. Quite often the most dangerous men are those who have their masculinity challenged as has been discussed on this forum today. Jeremy was unsure himself in the first telephone call: "Tonight's the night",but why not Sunday or Monday night? The answer lies in Jeremy's watching the routine of the family those first two nights,seeing what a state Sheila is in and knowing she would be putty in his hands..
Thought it was the miscarriages which tipped Jeremy over the edge Steve.  What rubbish.

I think that may have been the trigger.yes,steeling himself for the event as it were.

[maggie]

Didn't Suzette have other children who called Jeremy "Uncle"? I think Jeremy speculated about murder but deep down thought he wouldn't be capable of it. Quite often the most dangerous men are those who have their masculinity challenged as has been discussed on this forum today. Jeremy was unsure himself in the first telephone call: "Tonight's the night",but why not Sunday or Monday night? The answer lies in Jeremy's watching the routine of the family those first two nights,seeing what a state Sheila is in and knowing she would be putty in his hands..

Thought it was the miscarriage programme that tipped him over the edge, although he didn't watch that til after he had left the farmhouse.  What rubbish!!!!

[Steve_uk]

Thought it was the miscarriage programme that tipped him over the edge, although he didn't watch that til after he had left the farmhouse.  What rubbish!!!!

Well there is a difference between planning murder and executing it,not that I'm talking from personal experience.

[Jane]

Didn't Suzette have other children who called Jeremy "Uncle"? I think Jeremy speculated about murder but deep down thought he wouldn't be capable of it. Quite often the most dangerous men are those who have their masculinity challenged as has been discussed on this forum today. Jeremy was unsure himself in the first telephone call: "Tonight's the night",but why not Sunday or Monday night? The answer lies in Jeremy's watching the routine of the family those first two nights,seeing what a state Sheila is in and knowing she would be putty in his hands..

Well Steve, given that previously you've had Jeremy planning this action whilst sitting in his tractor earlier in the day, and then laying a trail with the placement of the gun, I fail to see how any programe shown at a later time could act as a trigger point for something already set in motion..........and if Sheila had been in the state that you now conveniently for your current theory say she inhabited, how would she coherently have written that she wished she hadn't been horrid to Jeremy.

[maggie]

I think that may have been the trigger.yes,steeling himself for the event as it were.

But Steve he didn't even watch the programme til after he had' left the loaded rifle out' and 'caused an argument about fostering' he can't have planned all that before he had decided that 'tonight was the night' when he watch the programme about miscarriages at 10 oclock before going to bed.    This is nonesense

[lookout]

Well there is a difference between planning murder and executing it,not that I'm talking from personal experience.

Steve,,when you're planning a murder,,you don't tell the biggest mouth in the village.

[susan]

lookout  you could be right maybe we are looking at the wrong person and should focus on Julie

[susan]

Hello Maggie  I am well over twenty not like you lot with special conditions as many as you want

[Steve_uk]

Well Steve, given that previously you've had Jeremy planning this action whilst sitting in his tractor earlier in the day, and then laying a trail with the placement of the gun, I fail to see how any programe shown at a later time could act as a trigger point for something already set in motion..........and if Sheila had been in the state that you now conveniently for your current theory say she inhabited, how would she coherently have written that she wished she hadn't been horrid to Jeremy.

Sheila never was this vindictive personage obsessed with money,which is part of the Defence's problem. She was an easily-led,gullible girl and in this state the perfect scapegoat for Jeremy's evil scheme. Jeremy can still back out even after his first telephone call to Julie,but then comes that fateful programme about miscarriages and the injustice is brought back to the forefront of Jeremy's mind as his children failed to be born,whereas Sheila has the mainstay of the twins. How terrible that they all have to die just so Jeremy can buy a wine bar in Poole and start afresh..

[Jane]

Well there is a difference between planning murder and executing it,not that I'm talking from personal experience.

Absolutely Steve dear. I'm fairly certain that there are times when one or two of us here may, during those times when you irritate us, fantasize about planning your demise, but as MOST of the time you amuse us, we'd rather have you alive and with us

[maggie]

Sheila never was this vindictive personage obsessed with money,which is part of the Defence's problem. She was an easily-led,gullible girl and in this state the perfect scapegoat for Jeremy's evil scheme. Jeremy can still back out even after his first telephone call to Julie,but then comes that fateful programme about miscarriages and the injustice is brought back to the forefront of Jeremy's mind as his children failed to be born,whereas Sheila has the mainstay of the twins. How terrible that they all have to die just so Jeremy can buy a wine bar in Poole and start afresh..

So because of that programme and with no more thought Jeremy pops back to WHF on his mother's old bone shaker across the fields complete with marigold gloves and wet suit and climbs through a window casually shooting the only family he has ever known?  This doesn't make the slightest sense steve and I think you are just playing games with us.

[Alias]

Like talking to a brick wall. 

[lookout]

Steve,,when you're planning a murder,,you don't tell the biggest mouth in the village.

If it was ever said at all that Jeremy " could kill his parents,etc ",,then it was the most unfortunate remark that he ever said,,,because ten to one,,if you've ever said anything at all on those lines and something goes wrong ( a coincidence ) like whatever it is,,happens,,,,then naturally the finger points at you.
As a for instance,,many years ago,,my friend and I were being bullied,,and I wished harm on the bully,,,and by a quirk of fate,,that bully was knocked over and died from her injuries.
How do you think I felt.? It was years before I got over it,,,so much so,that I still remember her name and can visualise what she looked like. I was about 11/12 at the time.
I got the fright of my life thinking I was responsible,,,but my friend and I were nowhere near when the accident happened.

[Jane]

Sheila never was this vindictive personage obsessed with money,which is part of the Defence's problem. She was an easily-led,gullible girl and in this state the perfect scapegoat for Jeremy's evil scheme. Jeremy can still back out even after his first telephone call to Julie,but then comes that fateful programme about miscarriages and the injustice is brought back to the forefront of Jeremy's mind as his children failed to be born,whereas Sheila has the mainstay of the twins. How terrible that they all have to die just so Jeremy can buy a wine bar in Poole and start afresh..

STEEEVE!! WHAT is with this bollox about Sheila being a vindictive (and PERSON is a more apt description of her than personage) YOU are the only one who ever uses the word in relation to her. Furthermore, you labour the point of miscarriage. Suzette already had 3 or 4 children. She was a mature woman, WHY would she want to create another child with a BOY, emotionally little more than a child himself, and WHY do you think she would contemplate allowing herself to BECOME pregnant. Oh yes, one more thing, Sheila was not the mainstay of the twins, she shared them with Colin for such time as her mental health allowed for it.

[susan]

april I would feel like I had lost my best friend if steve left us I just love his posts they are so original