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Offline Adam

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It is very likely Sheila did not wake until it was her turn to be shot. Which would have been last. For a lot of obvious reasons already posted. 


Bamber's options with Sheila would be -

Wake & lead Sheila while holding the rifle. Threatening to shoot her if she did not comply.

Leave the rifle in the main bedroom. Wake & use persuasion to lead Sheila into the main bedroom. Use physical force if she starts to resist.

Leave the rifle in the main bedroom. Do not wake Sheila. Lift  & carry her.  Bamber was strong enough to lift & carry her 20 yards. Unlikely she would wake & react sufficiently before being laid down.

Shoot Sheila once in bed. Lift and carry her to the main bedroom. Change & dispose bed sheets 

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Obviously the rifle could be left in the main bedroom as everyone else was dead. Doing this gives Bamber the element of surprise.

My view is option 2 most likely. Followed by options 1, 3 & 4.

Lots of options which match the evidence of Sheila putting up no resistance.



« Last Edit: February 10, 2023, 11:40:AM by Adam »
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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2023, 08:37:PM »
It is very likely Sheila did not wake until it was her turn to be shot. Which would have been last. For a lot of obvious reasons already posted. 


Bamber's options with Sheila would be -

Wake & lead Sheila while holding the rifle. Threatening to shoot her if she did not comply.

Leave the rifle in the main bedroom. Wake & use persuasion to lead Sheila into the main bedroom. Use physical force if she starts to resist.

Leave the rifle in the main bedroom. Do not wake Sheila. Lift  & carry her.  Bamber was strong enough to lift & carry her 20 yards. Unlikely she would wake & react sufficiently before being laid down.

Shoot Sheila once in bed. Lift and carry her to the main bedroom. Change & dispose bed sheets 

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Obviously the rifle could be left in the main bedroom as everyone else was dead. Doing this gives Bamber the element of surprise.

My view is option 2 most likely. Followed by options 1, 3 & 4.

Lots of options which match the evidence of Sheila putting up no resistance.

Why does JB lead Sheila right passed June with all the risks this entails, please give me a plausible reason?

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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2023, 01:27:AM »
Why does JB lead Sheila right passed June with all the risks this entails, please give me a plausible reason?

Well the evidence shows he did.

The lights would be off & Sheila half asleep.

The door opening inwards would probably hide June. Wasn't she found by her side of the bed?

Everyone is dead & Sheila is still sleeping. What of my options would you choose?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2023, 10:21:AM by Adam »
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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2023, 11:18:AM »
Sheila was sleepwalking!  ^-^

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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2023, 11:29:AM »
Sheila was sleepwalking!  ^-^

Sort of. Half asleep, weak, drowsy , un cordinated & not sure why Bamber had woken her. However she trusted her brother.

Certainly a lamb to the slaughter.

What would your tactic be to move her the required 20 yards?
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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2023, 11:35:AM »
Sheila was sleepwalking!  ^-^

Maybe Snow until she sees June, then she would be off like a hare down to the twins room, if JB grabs her she would lash out and fight.

I would have thought JB would be masked, wearing gloves etc. so the idea of "darling Sheila follow me" is laughable.

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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2023, 11:40:AM »
Maybe Snow until she sees June, then she would be off like a hare down to the twins room, if JB grabs her she would lash out and fight.

I would have thought JB would be masked, wearing gloves etc. so the idea of "darling Sheila follow me" is laughable.

He would not wear gloves & a mask with Sheila. If using persuasion.

June would not be seen. It would be dark & she was behind the open bedroom door. Sheila was also very drowsy from Haloperidal.
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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2023, 11:44:AM »
It is very easy for Bamber to maneuver Sheila 20 yards. Even Rob said there was nothing Sheila could do to stop him.

But appreciate supporters will try to make it appear as if Bamber was trying to maneuver Sheila across Europe.
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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2023, 11:45:AM »
It is very easy for Bamber to manuvre Sheila 20 yards. Even Rob said there was nothing Sheila could do to stop him.

But appreciate supporters will try to make it appear as if Bamber was trying to manuvre Sheila across Europe.

He may be able to, but WHY is what the question is Adam, there must be a very good reason?

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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2023, 11:48:AM »
Well the evidence shows he did.

The lights would be off & Sheila half asleep.

The door opening inwards would probably hide June. Wasn't she found by her side of the bed?

Everyone is dead & Sheila is still sleeping. What of my options would you choose?

Hopefully Rob answers. The evidence is Bamber used one of these options.

The evidence is Sheila did not wake prior to it being her turn.
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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2023, 12:03:PM »
Hopefully Rob answers. The evidence is Bamber used one of these options.

The evidence is Sheila did not wake prior to it being her turn.

You keep using the word evidence? there is none just your guesswork? That is not evidence!

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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2023, 12:07:PM »
You keep using the word evidence? there is none just your guesswork? That is not evidence!

Well there is no blood on Sheila's feet. Bamber would have kept her well clear of June.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2023, 12:12:PM »
Well there is no blood on Sheila's feet. Bamber would have kept her well clear of June.

The photo I have seen shows what looks like blood to me on sheilas foot Adam.

I agree Bamber would have kept Sheila well clear of June so why does he walk her right passed June.

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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2023, 12:15:PM »
The photo I have seen shows what looks like blood to me on sheilas foot Adam.

I agree Bamber would have kept Sheila well clear of June so why does he walk her right passed June.

Because that bedroom was nearest.

There was space in the room because Nevill was downstairs.

June was behind the open bedroom door.

The room would be dark.

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Are you not able to think of these answers yourself?
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Re: Leading Sheila 20 yards. Was the rifle left in the main bedroom?
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2023, 12:17:PM »
He may be able to, but WHY is what the question is Adam, there must be a very good reason?

Why would Bamber manuover Sheila 20 yards?

He's not going to shoot & leave her in her bed.
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