Author Topic: Why The CCRC Will Refute/Reject Recent Claims About Marks On Nevill's Back  (Read 10923 times)

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Offline Hardy Boy

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Yes well,as you know,I agree with Philip Boyce that the Aga made the burns HB,but not with his claim that the police moved Nevill. I dont know why the CT are going down this route,unless they have evidence of somesort to back it up. I just dont know!
Thanks Snow, i agree 100 per cent that it is a stupid theory that the raid team moved Neville from the AGA to the chair and put his head in the Coal Scuttle.

Look at the wording in the last Pharagraph from the SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE COURT OF APPEAL

 We have considered the potential impact that Action 94 might have had on the jury. We think it is wholly unrealistic to suggest that the jury might have been persuaded by it that there had not been a violent struggle in the kitchen. Even if one discounts the evidence of the overturned stools and chairs and the broken sugar bowl, there was sufficient other evidence to suggest a violent struggle.   Mr Bamber's body lay across an overturned chair that can have had nothing to do with the actions of the TFG
 
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Thanks Snow, i agree 100 per cent that it is a stupid theory that the raid team moved Neville from the AGA to the chair and put his head in the Coal Scuttle.

Look at the wording in the last Pharagraph from the SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE COURT OF APPEAL

 We have considered the potential impact that Action 94 might have had on the jury. We think it is wholly unrealistic to suggest that the jury might have been persuaded by it that there had not been a violent struggle in the kitchen. Even if one discounts the evidence of the overturned stools and chairs and the broken sugar bowl, there was sufficient other evidence to suggest a violent struggle.   Mr Bamber's body lay across an overturned chair that can have had nothing to do with the actions of the TFG

This last sentence is true. However the CCRC were not aware at that time of the source of NB's burns. Further it was not the TFG who moved him. That was done by others cleaning up the crime scene. to cover the mistakes they had made.

Offline Bubo bubo

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Jeremys conviction rests on the prosecutions contention that the silencer was attached on the gun when Sheila was shot. Nevil being burned by an oven handle does not undermine that.

There are only two types of evidence that can lead Jeremy to the appellate court.

A) Fresh evidence that undermines the silencer
B) Fresh evidence that show Sheila's culpability

Failing that there are only two other remedies that remain.

C) Appeal on the grounds of ineffective assistance of council (This should have been done a long time ago in my opinion)
D) Get the home secretary to use its prerogative power to pardon.

This point is covered by the latest submission. Issue 1.

Surely if the evidence of the burns is accepted it means that all aspects of the case become tainted.

I would like to know what Ngb thinks about this aspect.

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The documentary yesterday said the police moved two overturned stools a few inches upon entrance.

This was to get to the entrance where the stairs were.

This was in the officers original statements.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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This point is covered by the latest submission. Issue 1.

Surely if the evidence of the burns is accepted it means that all aspects of the case become tainted.

I would like to know what Ngb thinks about this aspect.
Agree Bubo,the Aga burn evidence is the linch-pin.
If accepted/proved,it tears the prosecution case to pieces!

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Agree Bubo,the Aga burn evidence is the linch-pin.
If accepted/proved,it tears the prosecution case to pieces!

It will not be accepted Snow.

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It will not be accepted Snow.
So I keep being told Roch.

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This point is covered by the latest submission. Issue 1.

Surely if the evidence of the burns is accepted it means that all aspects of the case become tainted.

I would like to know what Ngb thinks about this aspect.

They don't! His experiment didn't produce the same marls as those on Nevill's back. Just a few years ago he argued that the marks came from the rifle without the silencer but not with. The whole thing is JUST theoretical and it doesn't tell you who shot the victims.

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They don't! His experiment didn't produce the same marls as those on Nevill's back. Just a few years ago he argued that the marks came from the rifle without the silencer but not with. The whole thing is JUST theoretical and it doesn't tell you who shot the victims.
He’s hypothesising Zoso

Offline Bubo bubo

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He’s hypothesising Zoso

And you are taking the P--s. Why are you so rude. Not content with slander you are now resorting to sarcasm. The lowest form of wit. Address the point.

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And you are taking the P--s. Why are you so rude. Not content with slander you are now resorting to sarcasm. The lowest form of wit. Address the point.
I did, Boyce is hypothesising in my opinion?  Whats your problem?

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I did, Boyce is hypothesising in my opinion?  Whats your problem?

No he was experimenting. A scientific as opposed to a hypothetic/thinking process.

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No he was experimenting. A scientific as opposed to a hypothetic/thinking process.
Very true Bubo,very true!
An experiment that produced results!

Offline Bubo bubo

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Very true Bubo,very true!
An experiment that produced results!

It would greatly increase it's power if it was peer reviewed by other scientists and they agreed with him.