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Offline killingeve

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Re: CCRC under Helen Pitcher / additional injuries on adults @ WHF
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2023, 04:57:PM »
   Paul Foot single handedly uncovered more miscarriages of justice than the entire CCRC has managed in 26 years and counting. It is their job, Roch.
    The injuries on Sheila are undeniable. The most likely explanation for these injuries is laid out very well by Bill in his article.

Which moj's was Paul Foot involved with other than Bridgwater 4?

You believe Prof Vanezis overlooked these so-called injuries during the pm despite observing and noting minor details such as nicotine stains to fingers, stretch marks and scars from breast implants?  You believe there was further incompetence/neglect in that the pathologist for the defence also failed to observe and note these so-called injuries seen only by the likes of Bill and Roch  ::)


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Re: CCRC under Helen Pitcher / additional injuries on adults @ WHF
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2023, 05:59:PM »
Which moj's was Paul Foot involved with other than Bridgwater 4?

You believe Prof Vanezis overlooked these so-called injuries during the pm despite observing and noting minor details such as nicotine stains to fingers, stretch marks and scars from breast implants?  You believe there was further incompetence/neglect in that the pathologist for the defence also failed to observe and note these so-called injuries seen only by the likes of Bill and Roch  ::)

Some minor wounds are not visible when there is liver mortis and are only revealed when this dissipates. Is it possible the photos were taken later than PV's examination.

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Re: CCRC under Helen Pitcher / additional injuries on adults @ WHF
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2023, 06:51:PM »
I'm glad you're successful. But to look at recidivism rates you're the exception rather than the rule.

It's individual choice. There's no excuse.

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Re: CCRC under Helen Pitcher / additional injuries on adults @ WHF
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2023, 07:09:PM »
Believe Mr foot also strongly campaigned for a posthumous pardon for James Hanratty. The A6 murderer. Until 2002 when exhumed scientific evidence brought the conclusion he was gulity all along. However I am aware that many still dispute the conviction.

Read that book before Steve. It was clear alphon was a attention seeker craving notoriety
The Establishment doesn't exhume unless pushed. Possible to plant DNA evidence. I still feel uneasy about the conviction.

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Re: CCRC under Helen Pitcher / additional injuries on adults @ WHF
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2023, 07:11:PM »
It's individual choice. There's no excuse.
I wish you would go into prisons and talk to inmates. I have been asked in the past and turned the offer down.

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Re: CCRC under Helen Pitcher / additional injuries on adults @ WHF
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2023, 07:32:PM »
You believe Prof Vanezis overlooked these so-called injuries during the pm despite observing and noting minor details such as nicotine stains to fingers, stretch marks and scars from breast implants?  You believe there was further incompetence/neglect in that the pathologist for the defence also failed to observe and note these so-called injuries seen only by the likes of Bill and Roch  ::)


Stretch marks, nicotine stains etc have nothing to do with events at WHF on 6th/7th Aug. Therefore, there would be no reason to ensure they were omitted from any disclosed PM report used during the second investigation. However, fight and defence wounds would have to be omitted in such a report, otherwise there would be no case against Mr Bamber.

Some of the images are in the article.

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Re: CCRC under Helen Pitcher / additional injuries on adults @ WHF
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2023, 07:47:PM »
I wish you would go into prisons and talk to inmates. I have been asked in the past and turned the offer down.

I don't think it works powerful speaking in the general sense. I think it may strike a chord and work wonders for some. But again it is all down to personal choice.

To be literally blunt and from my own experience I think many of the criminal fraternity are put off by the simplicity of the 9 to 5 life. I can't speak for everyone because criminals have their own agendas and it's a broad topic to look into.I think criminality in general, especially in this day and age is not for personal survival but more for status symbol.  I think in this generation it is heavily influenced by the gangster rap. It's not like the early eighties when I was growing up. My first conviction in 1982 was for breaking into a shed to steal some tools what I know I could sell.


I honestly believe it is ingrained like you say from an early age. If you look at things from today's perspective what's more lucrative to a teenager with limited prospects? Break their back in some minimum wage job for low pay or deal drugs ?

We have become a materialistic keeping up with the Jones society. In so far as that I see criminality in general  spiralling further out of control and only getting worse
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