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16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« on: December 18, 2022, 11:29:AM »
Another dose of reality - 16mins from start to finish, a series of events acted out by Mitchell. This is the time of that miraculous discovery of his girlfriend. 16mins of special knowledge from where he had left her body hidden some hours earlier - 16mins. And one wonders why Mitchell is still spending his life tariff in jail? Of why he became prime suspect and subsequently convicted - 16mins.

Mitchell earlier in the evening of June the 30th had moved his girlfriends body from the back of the wall and hidden her behind a large oak tree with masses of foliage blocking view, summer growth at its fullest. In a woodland strip some 43ft west of the infamous V break in a wall. That high, thick, dry stone dyke. A frenzied violent attack covering a much larger area, starting NW of that V break and finishing those 43ft west directly behind that wall.

This 16mins is split into two periods of in and around 8mins each. That first period starts from just after 10:50pm when he was speaking with Jodi's mother on the phone, in under 10mins from telling her had not seen Jodi he had instantly initiated an actual physical search, one directly to the path (Roansdyke Path). By 10:59pm, when speaking with Jodi's mother again, he tells her he is on/at the path. Yet he was also to claim of having a debate with his mother, of having to borrow a torch from his brother. SM he said was upstairs, that he in turn had to locate a torch from somewhere downstairs, to be out that door and on that path. The walk alone, the normal route, around 7mins. In and around 8mins he had achieved all of this. We can leave SM not being home at this point, it is also highly unlikely that Mitchell himself was home either. It matters not for that 8min time period here.

The next period of in and around 8mins starts from approx: 11:22pm when four people met together on that path, there at the path by direction of Mitchell, fully led by him, his instant initiation of an actual physical search directly to that path. The woodland strip cut off from the path by 4-10ft of undergrowth, then that high, thick, dry stone dyke. The wall itself has two breaks, one the "Gino" break, the stones knocked off its length on top, still a good 7ft from ground level. The next the infamous V break in that wall. The physical meeting taken place near to that first break the "Gino" break. Between there and the start/top of the path.

It is important to note and make abundantly clear here that Mitchell's dog was on a short lead attached to a harness, it was at all times under control of its master. That these four people with that dog at no point were in that woodland strip searching, they were on that path, there under the guise of searching the path and the verges to the side. Led there to do this by Mitchell.

As soon as they commenced that walk together Mitchell diverted from that path and made a bee line directly to the first break in the wall, the "Gino" break. Through several feet of undergrowth, up the wall and shone his torch rapidly into the darkness beyond that wall. So, from instantly initiating an actual physical search to that path, he then instantly initiated the notion of that woodland beyond that wall as a viable place to find something. To take his dog back in front again, lead it a few feet into the verge of the field side and hasted back in front with the dog again. And as with that first break he made a bee line for the V break, directly to it heading from the east. This time Mitchell climbed over and walked no more than 10ft down a narrow passage on the inside of that wall, shouting out he had found his something.

16mins in total split into two lots of in and around 8mins. To initiate an actual physical search, to be ready and walk the distance to that path. A search directly to there. To meet with the others and instantly initiate the notion of that woodland as viable to find something, diverting attention away from that path. To enter that woodland and find his something - 16mins.

And you should be shaking your head here, 16mins to find a body hidden in an area of woodland off the beaten track, a body that had lay undiscovered over the course of that evening. Not 16mins of searching, 16mins in total. Of no one being in that woodland searching, no dog roaming free and scenting in any woodland. 16mins in total fully led there by Mitchell and led into the notion of that woodland by Mitchell instantly diverting from that path. That had absolutely nothing to do with Mitchells dog, fully under the control of Mitchell at all times on that short lead attached to its harness.

The evidence led around this alone was outstanding. Mitchell had claimed to hang around for the best part of 90mins earlier in the evening in one given area, around a five minute walk from the start of that path, yet his search in record breaking time was directly to that path then directly to that woodland strip beyond that wall.

So, we have a lad that had no alibi. We had five people seeing Mitchell in places he claimed not to have been. We had no one seeing him at those times were he attempted to claim to have been. We had this ridiculous 90mins of claimed idling in one spot waiting without being seen bar that intentional window of opportunity, of placing himself there to be seen, from around 6pm until just after 6:15pm. Not seen again outwith those three people who saw him further up Newbattle Road, at the gate and exiting that woodland strip before making his way down to the entrance of that estate, for his intentional window of opportunity.

A lad who took himself away from home to be in the boys company in the Abbey, who chased them up not once but twice for that meet to take place. Who claimed to go directly home at 9pm and stay home, he had not, he was seen going home at 10pm, Jodi's curfew time. Who claimed to be home at 10:50pm borrowing torches with no brother home? Who in 16mins of his actions led Jodi's family directly to her body.

That total time frame for that poor girls family. To be told just after 10:40pm that Jodi was missing, that he had not seen her that evening. To have him instantly bring about an actual physical search. To have the police arrive at their house to only file a missing persons report and a call coming through that a body had been found. By 11:30pm Mitchell is shouting from that woodland, at 11:34pm he put that call through in his flat affect tones that he had found something ------------

"Lured" is the word being used just now by Mitchell's enablers, of Jodi's family "luring Mitchell to the path ----------" -16mins of Mitchells actions and no one else's.

Those first statements - Four people with three given those descriptions of Mitchell and his dog going directly to that "Gino" break and Mitchell omitting this. To then go with his dog directly to that V break, with Mitchell claiming it was some distance past. The police fully aware of those time scales, who arrived at that scene, that horror, of where that poor girls body was hidden - And you think a policeman said to have written something down wrong produced this claimed tunnel vision? - 16mins fully led by Mitchell. Absolutely nothing to do with his dog other than it being used as a prop. - 16mins.

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2022, 11:48:AM »
Another dose of reality - 16mins from start to finish, a series of events acted out by Mitchell. This is the time of that miraculous discovery of his girlfriend. 16mins of special knowledge from where he had left her body hidden some hours earlier - 16mins. And one wonders why Mitchell is still spending his life tariff in jail? Of why he became prime suspect and subsequently convicted - 16mins.

Mitchell earlier in the evening of June the 30th had moved his girlfriends body from the back of the wall and hidden her behind a large oak tree with masses of foliage blocking view, summer growth at its fullest. In a woodland strip some 43ft west of the infamous V break in a wall. That high, thick, dry stone dyke. A frenzied violent attack covering a much larger area, starting NW of that V break and finishing those 43ft west directly behind that wall.

This 16mins is split into two periods of in and around 8mins each. That first period starts from just after 10:50pm when he was speaking with Jodi's mother on the phone, in under 10mins from telling her had not seen Jodi he had instantly initiated an actual physical search, one directly to the path (Roansdyke Path). By 10:59pm, when speaking with Jodi's mother again, he tells her he is on/at the path. Yet he was also to claim of having a debate with his mother, of having to borrow a torch from his brother. SM he said was upstairs, that he in turn had to locate a torch from somewhere downstairs, to be out that door and on that path. The walk alone, the normal route, around 7mins. In and around 8mins he had achieved all of this. We can leave SM not being home at this point, it is also highly unlikely that Mitchell himself was home either. It matters not for that 8min time period here.

The next period of in and around 8mins starts from approx: 11:22pm when four people met together on that path, there at the path by direction of Mitchell, fully led by him, his instant initiation of an actual physical search directly to that path. The woodland strip cut off from the path by 4-10ft of undergrowth, then that high, thick, dry stone dyke. The wall itself has two breaks, one the "Gino" break, the stones knocked off its length on top, still a good 7ft from ground level. The next the infamous V break in that wall. The physical meeting taken place near to that first break the "Gino" break. Between there and the start/top of the path.

It is important to note and make abundantly clear here that Mitchell's dog was on a short lead attached to a harness, it was at all times under control of its master. That these four people with that dog at no point were in that woodland strip searching, they were on that path, there under the guise of searching the path and the verges to the side. Led there to do this by Mitchell.

As soon as they commenced that walk together Mitchell diverted from that path and made a bee line directly to the first break in the wall, the "Gino" break. Through several feet of undergrowth, up the wall and shone his torch rapidly into the darkness beyond that wall. So, from instantly initiating an actual physical search to that path, he then instantly initiated the notion of that woodland beyond that wall as a viable place to find something. To take his dog back in front again, lead it a few feet into the verge of the field side and hasted back in front with the dog again. And as with that first break he made a bee line for the V break, directly to it heading from the east. This time Mitchell climbed over and walked no more than 10ft down a narrow passage on the inside of that wall, shouting out he had found his something.

16mins in total split into two lots of in and around 8mins. To initiate an actual physical search, to be ready and walk the distance to that path. A search directly to there. To meet with the others and instantly initiate the notion of that woodland as viable to find something, diverting attention away from that path. To enter that woodland and find his something - 16mins.

And you should be shaking your head here, 16mins to find a body hidden in an area of woodland off the beaten track, a body that had lay undiscovered over the course of that evening. Not 16mins of searching, 16mins in total. Of no one being in that woodland searching, no dog roaming free and scenting in any woodland. 16mins in total fully led there by Mitchell and led into the notion of that woodland by Mitchell instantly diverting from that path. That had absolutely nothing to do with Mitchells dog, fully under the control of Mitchell at all times on that short lead attached to its harness.

The evidence led around this alone was outstanding. Mitchell had claimed to hang around for the best part of 90mins earlier in the evening in one given area, around a five minute walk from the start of that path, yet his search in record breaking time was directly to that path then directly to that woodland strip beyond that wall.

So, we have a lad that had no alibi. We had five people seeing Mitchell in places he claimed not to have been. We had no one seeing him at those times were he attempted to claim to have been. We had this ridiculous 90mins of claimed idling in one spot waiting without being seen bar that intentional window of opportunity, of placing himself there to be seen, from around 6pm until just after 6:15pm. Not seen again outwith those three people who saw him further up Newbattle Road, at the gate and exiting that woodland strip before making his way down to the entrance of that estate, for his intentional window of opportunity.

A lad who took himself away from home to be in the boys company in the Abbey, who chased them up not once but twice for that meet to take place. Who claimed to go directly home at 9pm and stay home, he had not, he was seen going home at 10pm, Jodi's curfew time. Who claimed to be home at 10:50pm borrowing torches with no brother home? Who in 16mins of his actions led Jodi's family directly to her body.

That total time frame for that poor girls family. To be told just after 10:40pm that Jodi was missing, that he had not seen her that evening. To have him instantly bring about an actual physical search. To have the police arrive at their house to only file a missing persons report and a call coming through that a body had been found. By 11:30pm Mitchell is shouting from that woodland, at 11:34pm he put that call through in his flat affect tones that he had found something ------------

"Lured" is the word being used just now by Mitchell's enablers, of Jodi's family "luring Mitchell to the path ----------" -16mins of Mitchells actions and no one else's.

Those first statements - Four people with three given those descriptions of Mitchell and his dog going directly to that "Gino" break and Mitchell omitting this. To then go with his dog directly to that V break, with Mitchell claiming it was some distance past. The police fully aware of those time scales, who arrived at that scene, that horror, of where that poor girls body was hidden - And you think a policeman said to have written something down wrong produced this claimed tunnel vision? - 16mins fully led by Mitchell. Absolutely nothing to do with his dog other than it being used as a prop. - 16mins.

These enablers of a violent killer, who lie repeatedly for him, on behalf of him. Are under no illusion of the happenings that evening fully led by Mitchell. To divert away from those 16mins you will find them scraping with AW wanting to search the path? Let us have a look at this feeble attempt to deflect from Mitchells 16mins of special knowledge.

Central belt of communication, mainly Jodi's mother. Who had repeatedly spoken with Mitchell and with her own mother, all calls to AW (Jodi's gran) were made to her landline until after they left her home, shortly after 11pm, the calls then changing to mobile contact. Headed to the RDP to search by the initiation of Mitchell, of him being on the RDP.

When they arrived at the top of that path around 11:20pm each saw the others torchlight, and AW shouted out "Is that you Luke?" Contrary to the lies being put out, they then walked down to physically be in his company. He had only been around 2/3 up when seen, around 3/4 when physically together. It does not take much when Mitchell instantly asked if they had brought anything of Jodi's along with them. Everything again clearly showing why the meeting was taken place upon that path.

Back to Mitchell for a moment here. He was either lying of being on that path by 11pm to only be 2/3 of the way up, it is an 11min walk from one end to the next on average. Or he was simply idling time until he saw their arrival by torchlight for he knew as did they, without any doubt one was on the path and the others were heading there to meet with him.

This 2/3 to 3/4 of not being at the top, of Mitchell asking for something of Jodi's for the prop to scent with, they had not taken anything and AW said to search without it. For the four of them to carry out what they were there for, what they had been led there to do, which was to search that path and verges. As we know, by Mitchells claims, that Jodi had failed to turn up Newbattle earlier. This deflection does NOT change Mitchell's actions nor that time scale, and it is this that we are highlighting here - Those 16mins in total which were fully led by Mitchell.

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2022, 12:32:PM »
These enablers of a violent killer, who lie repeatedly for him, on behalf of him. Are under no illusion of the happenings that evening fully led by Mitchell. To divert away from those 16mins you will find them scraping with AW wanting to search the path? Let us have a look at this feeble attempt to deflect from Mitchells 16mins of special knowledge.

Central belt of communication, mainly Jodi's mother. Who had repeatedly spoken with Mitchell and with her own mother, all calls to AW (Jodi's gran) were made to her landline until after they left her home, shortly after 11pm, the calls then changing to mobile contact. Headed to the RDP to search by the initiation of Mitchell, of him being on the RDP.

When they arrived at the top of that path around 11:20pm each saw the others torchlight, and AW shouted out "Is that you Luke?" Contrary to the lies being put out, they then walked down to physically be in his company. He had only been around 2/3 up when seen, around 3/4 when physically together. It does not take much when Mitchell instantly asked if they had brought anything of Jodi's along with them. Everything again clearly showing why the meeting was taken place upon that path.

Back to Mitchell for a moment here. He was either lying of being on that path by 11pm to only be 2/3 of the way up, it is an 11min walk from one end to the next on average. Or he was simply idling time until he saw their arrival by torchlight for he knew as did they, without any doubt one was on the path and the others were heading there to meet with him.

This 2/3 to 3/4 of not being at the top, of Mitchell asking for something of Jodi's for the prop to scent with, they had not taken anything and AW said to search without it. For the four of them to carry out what they were there for, what they had been led there to do, which was to search that path and verges. As we know, by Mitchells claims, that Jodi had failed to turn up Newbattle earlier. This deflection does NOT change Mitchell's actions nor that time scale, and it is this that we are highlighting here - Those 16mins in total which were fully led by Mitchell.

The walk from the top of the path (east to west) is around 6 1/2 mins alone to that V break in the wall, we know that Mitchell was shouting out from that woodland strip no later than 11:30pm which is placed as an approx: time. Everything that Mitchell was to claim happened was shown to be impossible, both in time and by the very information given by the other three from those very first statements.

That sense of real time no doubt warped for them all, with Mitchell fuelling the police with a series of events that simply did not fit into time. Not just that they did not fit into time but they were in complete contrast to what three other people were saying.

I mentioned no later than 11:30pm for him to be shouting out from that woodland, the time from the top of the path to the V break, it was in all probability sooner that this. The walking distance shorter. Lean refers to this "slow pace" it was not a slow pace, it was a "slower pace" than that walked to get to the path itself. Not much chance of a slow pace with Mitchell taken the lead at all points. An even pace directly to those points, the Gino break, in front, those few steps into the field, back in front and directly to that V break in the wall.

For this we need to work backwards to show real time here - 11:34pm and that call is placed to the emergency services, in that call played before a court room, those harrowing screams from Jodi's gran and sister, placed whilst AW had just come across that horror. The evidence of her screams setting that of JaJ's off from that path, that natural reaction to hearing that horror from her poor grandmother.

This 43ft distance down the inside of that wall, the time to be helped over that V break, that briefest of times with her grandchild, and we are in real time talking no more than around 3mins. The time for Kelly to be over to walk no more than 30ft down the inside of that wall, let us give a full 5 mins here for both and we are back to just before 11:30pm with Mitchell shouting out from that woodland, and as we know, he had taken only around 10steps and stopped.

For, after he had entered those woods and turned left, then JaJ's and Kelly continued the walk, going past that V break. In their evidence from the off, they had walked around 10-15ft past when Mitchell shouted out, his voice behind them. Hasting back those few feet and Mitchell was standing on the other side of that break once again. He had barely moved.

Yet he was to describe the tree by name that Jodi lay behind. He was to describe Jodi's clothing even though she had changed. Her shoes and that distinct hair bobble that was not visible at all, tangled out of sight.

16mins which is barely enough time for anyone to even talk about a physical search. But to not only initiate one, to be physically in that location. To set off together and be shouting out from woodland that no one had been in searching with any dog. Fuelled with lies by Mitchell of events that did NOT take place, there had been no "some distance past not even 20yards" to being narrowed down to exactly 43ft and "parallel to" where he had left Jodi hidden in that woodland, through that undergrowth, over that high, thick, dry stone dyke. - 16mins of special knowledge, topped off with describing everything he could NOT have seen from that brief distance covered int those woods.

To tell the police he had never been in there before yet made a bee line directly to there and to that first break. To tell the police he had never seen those breaks before until that evening, finding that first one instantly some 7ft from ground level. - He just kept on lying -----------

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2022, 04:49:PM »
Good work Parky 👏

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2022, 06:42:PM »
we have allready debunked this  bullshit deeral times

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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2022, 08:36:AM »
we have allready debunked this  bullshit deeral times

One sentence of a baseless claim and spelling mistakes. Brilliant counter argument from you as usual.

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2022, 04:38:PM »
The walk from the top of the path (east to west) is around 6 1/2 mins alone to that V break in the wall, we know that Mitchell was shouting out from that woodland strip no later than 11:30pm which is placed as an approx: time. Everything that Mitchell was to claim happened was shown to be impossible, both in time and by the very information given by the other three from those very first statements.

That sense of real time no doubt warped for them all, with Mitchell fuelling the police with a series of events that simply did not fit into time. Not just that they did not fit into time but they were in complete contrast to what three other people were saying.

I mentioned no later than 11:30pm for him to be shouting out from that woodland, the time from the top of the path to the V break, it was in all probability sooner that this. The walking distance shorter. Lean refers to this "slow pace" it was not a slow pace, it was a "slower pace" than that walked to get to the path itself. Not much chance of a slow pace with Mitchell taken the lead at all points. An even pace directly to those points, the Gino break, in front, those few steps into the field, back in front and directly to that V break in the wall.

For this we need to work backwards to show real time here - 11:34pm and that call is placed to the emergency services, in that call played before a court room, those harrowing screams from Jodi's gran and sister, placed whilst AW had just come across that horror. The evidence of her screams setting that of JaJ's off from that path, that natural reaction to hearing that horror from her poor grandmother.

This 43ft distance down the inside of that wall, the time to be helped over that V break, that briefest of times with her grandchild, and we are in real time talking no more than around 3mins. The time for Kelly to be over to walk no more than 30ft down the inside of that wall, let us give a full 5 mins here for both and we are back to just before 11:30pm with Mitchell shouting out from that woodland, and as we know, he had taken only around 10steps and stopped.

For, after he had entered those woods and turned left, then JaJ's and Kelly continued the walk, going past that V break. In their evidence from the off, they had walked around 10-15ft past when Mitchell shouted out, his voice behind them. Hasting back those few feet and Mitchell was standing on the other side of that break once again. He had barely moved.

Yet he was to describe the tree by name that Jodi lay behind. He was to describe Jodi's clothing even though she had changed. Her shoes and that distinct hair bobble that was not visible at all, tangled out of sight.

16mins which is barely enough time for anyone to even talk about a physical search. But to not only initiate one, to be physically in that location. To set off together and be shouting out from woodland that no one had been in searching with any dog. Fuelled with lies by Mitchell of events that did NOT take place, there had been no "some distance past not even 20yards" to being narrowed down to exactly 43ft and "parallel to" where he had left Jodi hidden in that woodland, through that undergrowth, over that high, thick, dry stone dyke. - 16mins of special knowledge, topped off with describing everything he could NOT have seen from that brief distance covered int those woods.

To tell the police he had never been in there before yet made a bee line directly to there and to that first break. To tell the police he had never seen those breaks before until that evening, finding that first one instantly some 7ft from ground level. - He just kept on lying -----------



as  normal you dont site any soure for any of thos

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2022, 04:40:PM »
One sentence of a baseless claim and spelling mistakes. Brilliant counter argument from you as usual.

what baseless cliam we hawe deunked this bullshit  several times

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2022, 10:02:PM »


as  normal you dont site any soure for any of thos

He never does yet some still believe every word he types. Of course it’s simply confirmation bias…those who believe Parky simply want their already formed opinion confirmed but those of us who are able to think objectively see through the dishonesty to the desperation that lies beneath.

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2022, 10:35:AM »
He never does yet some still believe every word he types. Of course it’s simply confirmation bias…those who believe Parky simply want their already formed opinion confirmed but those of us who are able to think objectively see through the dishonesty to the desperation that lies beneath.

Whilst your analytical skills are nil and void, I didn't realise being unable to count was also a problem. I'll put the list up with the addition and you tell me where the lies are? Or has you head become so far removed from the bog standard basics of knowledge in this case you use that predictive 'lies' simply to point to your ilk - Don't listen!

What time did Mitchell tell Jodi's mother he had not seen her? - Just after 10:40pm in response to her text.
What time did he say he would be off to the RDP to search - 10:50pm.
What is the time difference? - Just under 10mins.
What time did he tell JuJ's he was on/at path with dog - 10:59pm.
What did he tell the police took place between those two calls - Debating with mother, borrowing a torch of brother, ready and on that path.
How long is walk to path from his house, the normal route - 7mins.
What are the time factors here? - In and around 8mins.

What phone was called several times to communicate with AW before 11pm - Her landline.
When did this switch to mobile contact - After 11pm.
Where were the three people from Mayfield at 11:18pm - In the complex.
Who's company were they not in with that call - MItchell's.
How long now had he been on that path by his information handed over - 18mins.
How long does it take to walk that path from bottom to top - 11mins.
What time did the they catch sight of each other by torchlight - No earlier than 11:20pm
How long had Mitchell now been on that path - 20mins.
What were AW's first words to Mitchell - "Is that you Luke?" (undisputed by all four)
Why did she shout out that question? - Because she knew he was on the path and heading there to search it because of this.
What did Mitchell ask them? - Had they brought anything of Jodi's along.
Why did he ask that question? - For he had told Jodi's mother he had his dog, he expected them to have taken something for the dog to scent with.
What were all four people aware of? - That Mitchell was on that path, that they were going to be searching that path because of him.
Where was Mitchell when they walked down to physically be in his company - Around 3/4
How long from the top to the V break in the wall - Around 6 1/2 mins
How long from where they set off together - Around 5mins.
What did Mitchell have a hold of his dog with - A short lead attached to a harness - pop a picture up, surely you have at least that?
Who took front spot - Mitchell.
Where did he instantly make a bee line for?  - The "Gino break" in the wall.
Where did he go then - back in front
Where did he go then - A few steps into the verge on the field side.
Where did he go then - back in front
Where did he got then - To the V break in that wall.

What are the time factors once more until he was shouting out of his something in that woods - In and around 8mins.

So, in and around 16mins in total he had within 10mins of telling Jodi's mother he had not seen her, instantly made a bee line to the RDP and nowhere else to search.  Upon setting off together he made a bee line for that wall, diverting the search, the notion of finding anything upon it to that woodland beyond that wall.

I am not interested in the the scraping to try and make a liars lies fit. The times do not lie, they cannot be altered. And every part of when that trio left Mayfield to going to that path is backed to the hilt with proof. At least 20mins on that path, IF he was telling the truth at 10:59pm. - So by all means say it is all lies, I couldn't agree more, he did nothing but lie, didn't he now?

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2022, 11:06:AM »
Whilst your analytical skills are nil and void, I didn't realise being unable to count was also a problem. I'll put the list up with the addition and you tell me where the lies are? Or has you head become so far removed from the bog standard basics of knowledge in this case you use that predictive 'lies' simply to point to your ilk - Don't listen!

What time did Mitchell tell Jodi's mother he had not seen her? - Just after 10:40pm in response to her text.
What time did he say he would be off to the RDP to search - 10:50pm.
What is the time difference? - Just under 10mins.
What time did he tell JuJ's he was on/at path with dog - 10:59pm.
What did he tell the police took place between those two calls - Debating with mother, borrowing a torch of brother, ready and on that path.
How long is walk to path from his house, the normal route - 7mins.
What are the time factors here? - In and around 8mins.

What phone was called several times to communicate with AW before 11pm - Her landline.
When did this switch to mobile contact - After 11pm.
Where were the three people from Mayfield at 11:18pm - In the complex.
Who's company were they not in with that call - MItchell's.
How long now had he been on that path by his information handed over - 18mins.
How long does it take to walk that path from bottom to top - 11mins.
What time did the they catch sight of each other by torchlight - No earlier than 11:20pm
How long had Mitchell now been on that path - 20mins.
What were AW's first words to Mitchell - "Is that you Luke?" (undisputed by all four)
Why did she shout out that question? - Because she knew he was on the path and heading there to search it because of this.
What did Mitchell ask them? - Had they brought anything of Jodi's along.
Why did he ask that question? - For he had told Jodi's mother he had his dog, he expected them to have taken something for the dog to scent with.
What were all four people aware of? - That Mitchell was on that path, that they were going to be searching that path because of him.
Where was Mitchell when they walked down to physically be in his company - Around 3/4
How long from the top to the V break in the wall - Around 6 1/2 mins
How long from where they set off together - Around 5mins.
What did Mitchell have a hold of his dog with - A short lead attached to a harness - pop a picture up, surely you have at least that?
Who took front spot - Mitchell.
Where did he instantly make a bee line for?  - The "Gino break" in the wall.
Where did he go then - back in front
Where did he go then - A few steps into the verge on the field side.
Where did he go then - back in front
Where did he got then - To the V break in that wall.

What are the time factors once more until he was shouting out of his something in that woods - In and around 8mins.

So, in and around 16mins in total he had within 10mins of telling Jodi's mother he had not seen her, instantly made a bee line to the RDP and nowhere else to search.  Upon setting off together he made a bee line for that wall, diverting the search, the notion of finding anything upon it to that woodland beyond that wall.

I am not interested in the the scraping to try and make a liars lies fit. The times do not lie, they cannot be altered. And every part of when that trio left Mayfield to going to that path is backed to the hilt with proof. At least 20mins on that path, IF he was telling the truth at 10:59pm. - So by all means say it is all lies, I couldn't agree more, he did nothing but lie, didn't he now?

How far down from the V break in the wall had that poor girls body been hidden - 43ft.
Had she been moved back from the wall - Yes, to behind that "Large Oak tree" that Mitchell described to the police.
Did he tell the police that they had all walked some distance past the V break - Yes he did.
Did he draw a map for the police - Yes he did.
Did he place X's upon that map of location of everyone? - Yes he did.
Did he then tell the police whilst discussing his map that the dog reacted "parallel to" where Jodi lay in the woods? - Yes he did.
Did his mother try to avoid that map like the plague when questioned about it on forums - Yes she did, opting to say that Luke "vaguely" remembered something of a map.
Were the search party taken back separately to that path to go over the evenings events? - Yes they were.
Was this the point of the statements being clarified? - Yes it was.
What was the change, the clarification from the search trio? - That it was Mitchell leading his dog and not the dog leading Mitchell.
Did they change where the dog with Mitchell made for? - No they did not.
Did they change dog and wall - No they did not.
Where on that path did they give these description of that dog and wall - At the V break, it was always at the V break.
How do we know this - For every single thing they described was of this. Directly to, watching Mitchell climb over. Seeing the lead being handed to AW. Seeing his torchlight shine left. Being stationary at the wall briefly whilst he entered those woods. Then of JaJ's and Kelly walking further down that path.
Was Mitchell lying - Yes he was.
Had they all been some 43ft down - No they had not.
Was his dog then alerting to something on the other side of that wall - No, for he was lying.
Did he have to make his way back to any break in the wall - No, for he was lying.
How far had JaJ's and Kelly said they had walked before hasting back to that break - Around 10-15ft.
Where was Mitchell's voice coming from - Behind them.
Where was Mitchell when they arrived back to that break - On the other side.
How far then could Mitchell have only travelled down that narrow passage - Around 10ft and stop.
Were the calls to the emergency services played before that court room - Yes they were.
Has you alter ego's head ever had possession of those recordings - No she has not, tells us that she has seen the transcript only and the operators comments.
What was shown before that court around "the boyfriend" the "laddie in a right state" - That it was Kelly who was speaking at those moments, screaming down the phone.

Was Mitchell ever in a "right state?" - No, not for a moment.

What were those comments around the dog and wall at the V break? - It was "pulling below the V" directly under it. "scurrying in the undergrowth" Then standing up against the wall "it's head was level with the V" - It was also "jumping" up at the wall looking for its master as he went over into those woods - So, tell me Faith, why do you assume that Mitchell did NOT take his dog with him over that wall, the dog who was supposed to have scented something beyond into the darkness of that woodland? - Behave.
 

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2022, 07:15:PM »
Whilst your analytical skills are nil and void, I didn't realise being unable to count was also a problem. I'll put the list up with the addition and you tell me where the lies are? Or has you head become so far removed from the bog standard basics of knowledge in this case you use that predictive 'lies' simply to point to your ilk - Don't listen!

What time did Mitchell tell Jodi's mother he had not seen her? - Just after 10:40pm in response to her text.
What time did he say he would be off to the RDP to search - 10:50pm.
What is the time difference? - Just under 10mins.
What time did he tell JuJ's he was on/at path with dog - 10:59pm.
What did he tell the police took place between those two calls - Debating with mother, borrowing a torch of brother, ready and on that path.
How long is walk to path from his house, the normal route - 7mins.
What are the time factors here? - In and around 8mins.

What phone was called several times to communicate with AW before 11pm - Her landline.
When did this switch to mobile contact - After 11pm.
Where were the three people from Mayfield at 11:18pm - In the complex.
Who's company were they not in with that call - MItchell's.
How long now had he been on that path by his information handed over - 18mins.
How long does it take to walk that path from bottom to top - 11mins.
What time did the they catch sight of each other by torchlight - No earlier than 11:20pm
How long had Mitchell now been on that path - 20mins.
What were AW's first words to Mitchell - "Is that you Luke?" (undisputed by all four)
Why did she shout out that question? - Because she knew he was on the path and heading there to search it because of this.
What did Mitchell ask them? - Had they brought anything of Jodi's along.
Why did he ask that question? - For he had told Jodi's mother he had his dog, he expected them to have taken something for the dog to scent with.
What were all four people aware of? - That Mitchell was on that path, that they were going to be searching that path because of him.
Where was Mitchell when they walked down to physically be in his company - Around 3/4
How long from the top to the V break in the wall - Around 6 1/2 mins
How long from where they set off together - Around 5mins.
What did Mitchell have a hold of his dog with - A short lead attached to a harness - pop a picture up, surely you have at least that?
Who took front spot - Mitchell.
Where did he instantly make a bee line for?  - The "Gino break" in the wall.
Where did he go then - back in front
Where did he go then - A few steps into the verge on the field side.
Where did he go then - back in front
Where did he got then - To the V break in that wall.

What are the time factors once more until he was shouting out of his something in that woods - In and around 8mins.

So, in and around 16mins in total he had within 10mins of telling Jodi's mother he had not seen her, instantly made a bee line to the RDP and nowhere else to search.  Upon setting off together he made a bee line for that wall, diverting the search, the notion of finding anything upon it to that woodland beyond that wall.

I am not interested in the the scraping to try and make a liars lies fit. The times do not lie, they cannot be altered. And every part of when that trio left Mayfield to going to that path is backed to the hilt with proof. At least 20mins on that path, IF he was telling the truth at 10:59pm. - So by all means say it is all lies, I couldn't agree more, he did nothing but lie, didn't he now?

“ So, in and around 16mins in total he had within 10mins of telling Jodi's mother he had not seen her, instantly made a bee line to the RDP and nowhere else to search.”

As did the original search trio. When asked in court why they did this AW testified that she didn’t know. Did that indicated guilty knowledge on AW’s part?

It’s the hypocrisy that sticks in my craw.

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2022, 07:23:PM »
How far down from the V break in the wall had that poor girls body been hidden - 43ft.
Had she been moved back from the wall - Yes, to behind that "Large Oak tree" that Mitchell described to the police.
Did he tell the police that they had all walked some distance past the V break - Yes he did.
Did he draw a map for the police - Yes he did.
Did he place X's upon that map of location of everyone? - Yes he did.
Did he then tell the police whilst discussing his map that the dog reacted "parallel to" where Jodi lay in the woods? - Yes he did.
Did his mother try to avoid that map like the plague when questioned about it on forums - Yes she did, opting to say that Luke "vaguely" remembered something of a map.
Were the search party taken back separately to that path to go over the evenings events? - Yes they were.
Was this the point of the statements being clarified? - Yes it was.
What was the change, the clarification from the search trio? - That it was Mitchell leading his dog and not the dog leading Mitchell.
Did they change where the dog with Mitchell made for? - No they did not.
Did they change dog and wall - No they did not.
Where on that path did they give these description of that dog and wall - At the V break, it was always at the V break.
How do we know this - For every single thing they described was of this. Directly to, watching Mitchell climb over. Seeing the lead being handed to AW. Seeing his torchlight shine left. Being stationary at the wall briefly whilst he entered those woods. Then of JaJ's and Kelly walking further down that path.
Was Mitchell lying - Yes he was.
Had they all been some 43ft down - No they had not.
Was his dog then alerting to something on the other side of that wall - No, for he was lying.
Did he have to make his way back to any break in the wall - No, for he was lying.
How far had JaJ's and Kelly said they had walked before hasting back to that break - Around 10-15ft.
Where was Mitchell's voice coming from - Behind them.
Where was Mitchell when they arrived back to that break - On the other side.
How far then could Mitchell have only travelled down that narrow passage - Around 10ft and stop.
Were the calls to the emergency services played before that court room - Yes they were.
Has you alter ego's head ever had possession of those recordings - No she has not, tells us that she has seen the transcript only and the operators comments.
What was shown before that court around "the boyfriend" the "laddie in a right state" - That it was Kelly who was speaking at those moments, screaming down the phone.

Was Mitchell ever in a "right state?" - No, not for a moment.

What were those comments around the dog and wall at the V break? - It was "pulling below the V" directly under it. "scurrying in the undergrowth" Then standing up against the wall "it's head was level with the V" - It was also "jumping" up at the wall looking for its master as he went over into those woods - So, tell me Faith, why do you assume that Mitchell did NOT take his dog with him over that wall, the dog who was supposed to have scented something beyond into the darkness of that woodland? - Behave.

The change of testimony by the search trio from those first statements has no innocent explanation. The experts know it, I know it and I’m sure you know it or why would you spend so much time and energy trying to downplay it?

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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2022, 11:38:AM »
The change of testimony by the search trio from those first statements has no innocent explanation. The experts know it, I know it and I’m sure you know it or why would you spend so much time and energy trying to downplay it?

That is your answer to accusing me of lying - That same pile of s***e in those lies fed to the media by you and your ilk. The liars who not only lie themselves but erase and re-write Mitchells account for him to tie in with the truth of Jodi's family. To make it all fit somehow!

That five minute walk which took barely longer than this from where they set off together. Being  led directly to that path by Mitchell in his first lot of, in and around 8mins. To him awaiting their arrival, seeing that torchlight then coming into view himself. No less than 20mins on that path alone doing goodness knows what. To then instantly make a bee line through that undergrowth to that wall at the Gino break. Instantly initiating the idea of something in the woodland. To then, as with that first break, going to the accessible one, straight to it with is dog to access those woods. No unfamiliarity, no taken any dog with him, no trepidation of step, around 10ft to his left and stop.

To tell the police that his dog had reacted directly "parallel" to where that girls body was in the woods, some 43ft past that break in the wall. That he was with JaJ's and Kelly, that they kept on walking whilst he went back to that break - And you erase all of this out to have a dog doing summersaults at the V break, to ignore and blank Mitchell's specific lies, his reason for knowing exactly where to go. Christ, you can't even get your lies correct! All this dog-wall which did not change. What did change, what was clarified, is that it was Mitchell leading his dog and not the other way around.

Led his dog to that Gino break, led his dog back in front, led his dog a few steps into the verge on the field side, led his dog back in front, led his dog directly to that V break. No dog required for the woods at all, fancy that! He just knew where to go, of course he did, he had left that poor girls body hidden there earlier that evening.

Those ten steps and he tells the police of the body lying behind "A large Oak tree" And they are going WTAF, you are telling us you have never been in there before, daylight or darkness, you are claiming to have just come across horror and you are telling us the type of tree! - Behave.

Are you on drugs or booze? - The search trio were corroborating Mitchell's lies, the lies you erase out, to then change their mind to not corroborate Mitchells lies, the lies you scrub out? Seriously! Four people from those very first statements, one "some distance past not even 20 yards" clarified to being directly at and "parallel to" where the body lay in the woods, some 43ft west of that V break. To the other three, directly to those breaks, to directly to those breaks - This never changed.

16mins for Mitchell to instantly initiate an actual physical search less than 10mins from telling Jodi's mother he had not see her. To borrowing an imaginary torches from an imaginary brother, to walk that 7mins directly to that path. To be on that path by 11pm by his claims. To not even be at the top some 20mins later of that 11min walk. To physically meet and discuss, to go directly to the wall and look in the woodland beyond, first time just looking over that wall, second time to physically enter, in what was in reality around 6mins after the meet and discussion.

A body hidden some 43ft west of that break in the wall within that woodland. Off the beaten track in an area unfrequented by walkers. Hidden behind that large oak tree several feet in from that wall. A body that had lay undiscovered for those very reason, hidden out of sight from any normal walk through, those short cut points from the V break east and vice versa. Yet Mitchell in just 16mins found her - B****r off. That is 16mins in total, split into two lots. Every part fuelled with lies from Mitchell. Directly to that path, inclusive of walking time. Directly to those breaks again inclusive of walking time.



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Re: 16mins of special knowledge fully led by Mitchell
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2022, 06:32:PM »
That is your answer to accusing me of lying - That same pile of s***e in those lies fed to the media by you and your ilk. The liars who not only lie themselves but erase and re-write Mitchells account for him to tie in with the truth of Jodi's family. To make it all fit somehow!

That five minute walk which took barely longer than this from where they set off together. Being  led directly to that path by Mitchell in his first lot of, in and around 8mins. To him awaiting their arrival, seeing that torchlight then coming into view himself. No less than 20mins on that path alone doing goodness knows what. To then instantly make a bee line through that undergrowth to that wall at the Gino break. Instantly initiating the idea of something in the woodland. To then, as with that first break, going to the accessible one, straight to it with is dog to access those woods. No unfamiliarity, no taken any dog with him, no trepidation of step, around 10ft to his left and stop.

To tell the police that his dog had reacted directly "parallel" to where that girls body was in the woods, some 43ft past that break in the wall. That he was with JaJ's and Kelly, that they kept on walking whilst he went back to that break - And you erase all of this out to have a dog doing summersaults at the V break, to ignore and blank Mitchell's specific lies, his reason for knowing exactly where to go. Christ, you can't even get your lies correct! All this dog-wall which did not change. What did change, what was clarified, is that it was Mitchell leading his dog and not the other way around.

Led his dog to that Gino break, led his dog back in front, led his dog a few steps into the verge on the field side, led his dog back in front, led his dog directly to that V break. No dog required for the woods at all, fancy that! He just knew where to go, of course he did, he had left that poor girls body hidden there earlier that evening.

Those ten steps and he tells the police of the body lying behind "A large Oak tree" And they are going WTAF, you are telling us you have never been in there before, daylight or darkness, you are claiming to have just come across horror and you are telling us the type of tree! - Behave.

Are you on drugs or booze? - The search trio were corroborating Mitchell's lies, the lies you erase out, to then change their mind to not corroborate Mitchells lies, the lies you scrub out? Seriously! Four people from those very first statements, one "some distance past not even 20 yards" clarified to being directly at and "parallel to" where the body lay in the woods, some 43ft west of that V break. To the other three, directly to those breaks, to directly to those breaks - This never changed.

16mins for Mitchell to instantly initiate an actual physical search less than 10mins from telling Jodi's mother he had not see her. To borrowing an imaginary torches from an imaginary brother, to walk that 7mins directly to that path. To be on that path by 11pm by his claims. To not even be at the top some 20mins later of that 11min walk. To physically meet and discuss, to go directly to the wall and look in the woodland beyond, first time just looking over that wall, second time to physically enter, in what was in reality around 6mins after the meet and discussion.

A body hidden some 43ft west of that break in the wall within that woodland. Off the beaten track in an area unfrequented by walkers. Hidden behind that large oak tree several feet in from that wall. A body that had lay undiscovered for those very reason, hidden out of sight from any normal walk through, those short cut points from the V break east and vice versa. Yet Mitchell in just 16mins found her - B****r off. That is 16mins in total, split into two lots. Every part fuelled with lies from Mitchell. Directly to that path, inclusive of walking time. Directly to those breaks again inclusive of walking time.

Where do you get your information?