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My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« on: November 04, 2022, 03:09:PM »
My view is he phoned his AM from WHF around 3am.

This gives him an easy 26/36 minutes to get back to WHF & phone Chelmsford police. Either before or after washing & changing.

Ringing at 3.10am it is still possible but more of a rush.

Bamber would have said 3.10am either in error, or he didn't want the time gap before he called Chelmsford police to be too long.

If BT could trace the call & said it  was at 3.00am, Bamber can just say 'I was half asleep & got the time 10 minutes wrong'.

« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 03:13:PM by Adam »
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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2022, 03:17:PM »
My view is he phoned his AM from WHF around 3am.

This gives him an easy 26/36 minutes to get back to WHF & phone Chelmsford police. Either before or after washing & changing.

Ringing at 3.10am it is still possible but more of a rush.

Bamber would have said 3.10am either in error, or he didn't want the time gap before he called Chelmsford police to be too long.

If BT could trace the call & said it  was at 3.00am, Bamber can just say 'I was half asleep & got the time 10 minutes wrong'.

Saying he spent 16/26 minutes looking through Yellow Pages is already unbelivable. Twenty six/36 minutes would be even worse.

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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2022, 03:19:PM »
Saying he spent 16/26 minutes looking through Yellow Pages is already unbelivable. Twenty six/36 minutes would be even worse.

I agree Adam, a guilty man would have just dialed 999.

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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2022, 03:31:PM »
I agree Adam, a guilty man would have just dialed 999.

Yes everyone would call 999.

Obviously several reasons why Bamber called the sixth furthest away police station. After looking through Yellow Pages.
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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2022, 04:06:PM »
Yes everyone would call 999.

Obviously several reasons why Bamber called the sixth furthest away police station. After looking through Yellow Pages.

Please explain? months planning why did he not dial 999 no reason why not that I can see? If guilty it's a no brainer he would, if innocent and flustered maybe not.

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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2022, 06:41:PM »
Please explain? months planning why did he not dial 999 no reason why not that I can see? If guilty it's a no brainer he would, if innocent and flustered maybe not.

It has already been said several times why Bamber called the sixth furthest away police station.

It is called planning.

I will leave you to work out the reasons.
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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2022, 08:24:PM »
Please explain? months planning why did he not dial 999 no reason why not that I can see? If guilty it's a no brainer he would, if innocent and flustered maybe not.
He had to tidy himself up between the murders and involvement of police. Not dialling 999 gave him the excuse that he was flicking through Yellow Pages looking for the Chelmsford number.

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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2022, 08:52:PM »
He had to tidy himself up between the murders and involvement of police. Not dialling 999 gave him the excuse that he was flicking through Yellow Pages looking for the Chelmsford number.

Thanks for helping Adam out Steve, yes I realize this is the only plausible reason but my problem is from putting the phone down at 3.10 and phoning the police at 3.26 JB just does not have time.

Clambering out of the window and putting all the bits and pieces back would take five minutes alone.

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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2022, 09:31:PM »
Thanks for helping Adam out Steve, yes I realize this is the only plausible reason but my problem is from putting the phone down at 3.10 and phoning the police at 3.26 JB just does not have time.

Clambering out of the window and putting all the bits and pieces back would take five minutes alone.
We don't know the time of the alleged call, whether it was from Nevill as the Defence asserts or Jeremy telephoning his answerphone from White House Farm. We don't even know the exact time of Jeremy's call to Julie. However given that their relationship had been cooling for months (Jeremy's own words to police under interrogation in September) it's strange that he telephoned her at all, imparting information at an early stage of the crime.

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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2022, 09:56:PM »
We don't know the time of the alleged call, whether it was from Nevill as the Defence asserts or Jeremy telephoning his answerphone from White House Farm. We don't even know the exact time of Jeremy's call to Julie. However given that their relationship had been cooling for months (Jeremy's own words to police under interrogation in September) it's strange that he telephoned her at all, imparting information at an early stage of the crime.

Yes I have puzzled over why Jeremy calls Julie at all? was he trying to give her an alibi is the only reason I can think of? assuming he is guilty that is.

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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2022, 10:55:PM »
Yes I have puzzled over why Jeremy calls Julie at all? was he trying to give her an alibi is the only reason I can think of? assuming he is guilty that is.
He was trying to rope her in as an accessory.

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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2022, 11:36:PM »
Yes I have puzzled over why Jeremy calls Julie at all? was he trying to give her an alibi is the only reason I can think of? assuming he is guilty that is.

Julie was in London. In a flat with several other people. No alibi needed.

He rang Julie as he was hyped up & wanted to tell her - 'everything is going well', 'I haven't slept all night' & 'there is something wrong at the farm'.
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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2022, 11:38:PM »
He had to tidy himself up between the murders and involvement of police. Not dialling 999 gave him the excuse that he was flicking through Yellow Pages looking for the Chelmsford number.

That has already been said.

Rob was not able to work it out. Asking me to explain why Bamber phoned the sixth furthest away police station. Saying a guilty Bamber would have dialled 999.

There are other reasons why he dialled Chelmsford police.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 11:44:PM by Adam »
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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2022, 12:15:AM »
That has already been said.

Rob was not able to work it out. Asking me to explain why Bamber phoned the sixth furthest away police station. Saying a guilty Bamber would have dialled 999.

There are other reasons why he dialled Chelmsford police.
You never repeat anything Adam, do you..

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Re: My view on what time Bamber called his AM.
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2022, 11:16:AM »
I don't believe the defence at trial or the CT have really questioned the prosecution narrative - Bamber phoned his cottage from WHF, then cycled back and called the police.

It is all straight forward.

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