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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #330 on: September 04, 2022, 11:45:PM »
It is an impossible theory.
How so?

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #331 on: September 04, 2022, 11:46:PM »
The 76 is just the COA evidence.

Please see previous link.

Keep up.

Perhaps you should include the judge telling the jury it was Sheila's blood in the silencer? Does that mean we are back to 201 pieces of BS?

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #332 on: September 04, 2022, 11:48:PM »
It is an impossible theory.

I would have thought a senior officer taking home and destroying case documents was impossible, but just standard procedure in this case.

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #333 on: September 04, 2022, 11:49:PM »
Progress has been made with the silencer -

Everyone agrees it's Sheila's blood. Rob's view has been dismissed as he has not provided a silencer scenario.

Everyone agrees the guilter explanation is watertight - Bamber shot Sheila.

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There just needs to be a credible alternative scenario how Sheila's blood got into the silencer. Lookout's & Davids were dismissed years ago. Snow66!'s is just as bad.
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #334 on: September 04, 2022, 11:51:PM »
Progress has been made with the silencer -

Everyone agrees it's Sheila's blood. Rob's view has been dismissed as he has not provided a silencer scenario.

Everyone agrees the guilter explanation is watertight - Bamber shot Sheila.

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There just needs to be a credible alternative scenario how Sheila's blood got into the silencer. Lookout's & Davids were dismissed years ago. Snow66!'s is just as bad.

A scenario is not needed as David has shown that back spatter does not explain the flake of blood in the silencer.

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #335 on: September 04, 2022, 11:55:PM »
Goodnight my friends.

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #336 on: September 04, 2022, 11:55:PM »
A scenario is not needed as David has shown that back spatter does not explain the flake of blood in the silencer.

You have refused to agree the blood is Sheila's. Although agree with the watertight guilters explanation - Bamber shot Sheila. 

You have also said it is not DB's blood.

You just need to give a scenario how blood matching 17 out of 20 markers to Sheila's (but not hers) got into the silencer.
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #337 on: September 05, 2022, 12:00:AM »
Perhaps you should include the judge telling the jury it was Sheila's blood in the silencer? Does that mean we are back to 201 pieces of BS?

If 17 out of 20 markers means it wasn't Sheila's & it also wasn't DB's, then who the heck's blood was it?
« Last Edit: September 05, 2022, 12:01:AM by Adam »
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #338 on: September 05, 2022, 12:15:AM »
If 17 out of 20 markers means it wasn't Sheila's & it also wasn't DB's, then who the heck's blood was it?

Well the PGM enzyme was negative, and the AK enzyme is also found in animals, and 17 out of 20 markers means it could be half the world plus little green men on Mars.

I think it's best all round to simply say it was not Sheila's blood in the silencer and whoever put the blood in it got lucky with the blood group matching Sheila's.
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #339 on: September 05, 2022, 12:42:AM »
Progress has been made with the silencer -

Everyone agrees it's Sheila's blood. Rob's view has been dismissed as he has not provided a silencer scenario.

Everyone agrees the guilter explanation is watertight - Bamber shot Sheila.

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Which is why even guilters believe the silencer was fabricated ie Caroline and Paul Harrison. I believe Steve_UK is also sceptical of it.

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #340 on: September 05, 2022, 12:48:AM »
Which is why even guilters believe the silencer was fabricated ie Caroline and Paul Harrison. I believe Steve_UK is also sceptical of it.

83% of the forum think the silencer was fabricated only 17% think its genuine.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7747.0.html#msg365525

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #341 on: September 05, 2022, 09:18:AM »
83% of the forum think the silencer was fabricated only 17% think its genuine.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7747.0.html#msg365525

And how does this prove anything other than what a few misguided individuals believe on an obscure online forum?
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #342 on: September 05, 2022, 09:36:AM »
Well the PGM enzyme was negative, and the AK enzyme is also found in animals, and 17 out of 20 markers means it could be half the world plus little green men on Mars.

I think it's best all round to simply say it was not Sheila's blood in the silencer and whoever put the blood in it got lucky with the blood group matching Sheila's.

What is unusual about the PGM eynzyme test coming up negative?

The exhibits were first tested for the presence of blood and whether it was human in origin so the idea the AK enzyme originated from some non-human species is out of the question since it was confirmed as human in origin.

I have already explained the CoA confirmed the 17/20 markers are meaningless and concluded it was not possible to say either way whether or not Sheila's DNA was in the silencer.  The court further concluded Sheila's blood was in the silencer (flake/blood groupings) but that it was all swabbed away in the course of testing hence the later LCN DNA tests came up inconclusive.

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #343 on: September 05, 2022, 09:45:AM »
And how does this prove anything other than what a few misguided individuals believe on an obscure online forum?

Sometime around March 2017. You told me over the phone you think the Lab fabricated the silencer after they heard Julie had said Jeremy done it.  ;D
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #344 on: September 05, 2022, 09:50:AM »
Sometime around March 2017 You told me over the phone you think the Lab fabricated the silencer after they heard Julie said Jeremy done it.  ;D

You mean an "industrial frame"?   ;D 

How could the lab have fabricated the silencer when the blood, paint and hair were seen by others before the silencer even arrived at the lab?