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Offline killingeve

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #255 on: September 04, 2022, 06:59:PM »
Or, you were obviously not in a sound state of mind when I did post it.

You are in no postion to talk about the states of minds of others when you dream up absurd theories about AE wringing out Sheila's menstrual stained knickers, found soaking in a bucket, into the silencer

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #256 on: September 04, 2022, 07:09:PM »
The blood needs to be Sheila's. Due to 17 out of 20 markers.

17 out of 20 is inconclusive do you know why they did not test more markers?

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« Reply #257 on: September 04, 2022, 07:10:PM »
17 out of 20 is inconclusive do you know why they did not test more markers?

Inconclusive? What do you want, blood?!
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« Reply #258 on: September 04, 2022, 07:20:PM »
Everyone has to accept it is Sheila's blood in the silencer. Even David does.

Supporters just need to find a credible way it was so convincingly fabricated.

Don't forget you can bring the police into this fabrication. They must have fabricated all the other evidence so why not the silencer?

The relatives had no access to Sheila's blood.   
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #259 on: September 04, 2022, 07:25:PM »
As with all the other evidence, guilters are fully covered with the silencer.

There was a kitchen fight & Sheila recieved a contact & 'within 3 inches' shot in an area of high blood flow. No one else did.

The onus is on supporters to create a credible fabrication. 
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #260 on: September 04, 2022, 07:33:PM »
Inconclusive? What do you want, blood?!

It not me it's just fact, 17 out of 20 markers matching is inconclusive, they could have tested more?

I know you are desperate for evidence so blame the scientists not me!

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #261 on: September 04, 2022, 07:36:PM »
Everyone has to accept it is Sheila's blood in the silencer. Even David does.

Supporters just need to find a credible way it was so convincingly fabricated.

Don't forget you can bring the police into this fabrication. They must have fabricated all the other evidence so why not the silencer?

The relatives had no access to Sheila's blood.

Sorry the DNA evidence does not support this as you very well know.

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #262 on: September 04, 2022, 07:38:PM »
It not me it's just fact, 17 out of 20 markers matching is inconclusive, they could have tested more?

I know you are desperate for evidence so blame the scientists not me!

Seventeen of the twenty bands attributable to Sheila Caffell had been detected in DNA from the internal swabbings.

Random chance would have suggested thirteen common
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #263 on: September 04, 2022, 07:38:PM »
Sorry the DNA evidence does not support this as you very well know.

Seventeen of the twenty bands attributable to Sheila Caffell had been detected in DNA from the internal swabbings.

Random chance would have suggested thirteen common
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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #264 on: September 04, 2022, 07:38:PM »
The blood needs to be Sheila's. Due to 17 out of 20 markers.

No.  The experts and CoA concluded the 17/20 did not stand up and that Sheila's DNA may have been in the silencer but it was not possible to conclude either way (points 496 and 497 CoA 2002).

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #265 on: September 04, 2022, 07:40:PM »
The most compelling blood evidence relates to the 1986 trial with Sheila's blood groups matching that of the flake.

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #266 on: September 04, 2022, 07:42:PM »
Sorry the DNA evidence does not support this as you very well know.

You agreed it was sick to suggest DB put his blood inside the silencer. After somehow finding out they were in the same apparant 8% blood group.

Not sure what your position is.

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #267 on: September 04, 2022, 07:45:PM »
Thanks Cc for your detailed reply, do you have any idea why the PGM grouping was missing from the flake? I have come up against a wall looking into this?

The 2002 CoA doc point 453 states:

"He had done a PGM grouping test but it gave negative results".

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #268 on: September 04, 2022, 07:47:PM »
You agreed it was sick to suggest DB put his blood inside the silencer. After somehow finding out they were in the same apparant 8% blood group.

Not sure what your position is.

I don't like talking about the relatives by name if I can help it Adam, but assuming blood was planted in the silencer I don't think it was DB.

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Re: Flaws in David1819's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #269 on: September 04, 2022, 07:48:PM »
I don't like talking about the relatives by name if I can help it Adam, but assuming blood was planted in the silencer I don't think it was DB.

Please supply your fabrication scenario.
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