What ILB is relying on in his Sheila scenario.

[Adam]

Invented conversations happening.

Evidence of Sheila being docile & uncordinated being wrong.

Rifle left outside by Nevill & June & repeatedly not put away.

Sheila walking on a creeking floorboard.

Nevill hearing things that are impossible to hear.

Nevill doing nothing worthwhile.

Nevill allowing Sheila to brutally hit his arms, torso and head upstairs. Continually. So hard the rifle butt falls off & Nevill's watch smashes.

Nevill not taking the rifle off Sheila.

June being awake but doing nothing.

Nevill ringing Bamber's AM. After escaping Sheila hitting him and after she has shot the twins 8 times.

Bamber picking up within 2 call attempts.

Nevill allowing Sheila to re load in front of him.

Nevill allowing Sheila to go back upstairs with a loaded rifle.

Nevill burning his own back 3 times.

Sheila getting help to pull Nevill downstairs. After the 2X upstairs beatings and 4 upstairs shots had killed him upstairs.

Sheila getting help to lift Nevill onto the coal scuttle.

Sheila moving the broken rifle butt & Nevill's watch downstairs.

Sheila smashing the kitchen ceiling light.

Sheila scratching the aga.

Sheila achieving everything between 3.10am - 3.50am.

Sheila finding someone to shoot her a second time.

Sheila shooting June at the exact same time Bamber answers. Nevill having super human hearing.

Sheila going into a rage unprovoked. Twice.

Nevill leaving everyone to go downstairs.

[lookout]

Here we go 

[ILB]

There is too much empathis put on the ability of nevill " to do something miraculous"

[lookout]

ILB as I said on the other thread, Nevill didn't do so well in the scuffle with John Eaton.

[Adam]

There is too much empathis put on the ability of nevill " to do something miraculous"

Taking the rifle off Sheila is all he had to do. He had enough chances.

[ILB]

Taking the rifle off Sheila is all he had to do. He had enough chances.

How much pain to a man do you think a rifle blow would cause?

Answer me that one

[Adam]

Relying on 24 things happening in a scenario which the evidence can't support is very optimistic.

[ILB]

Relying on 24 things happening in a scenario which the evidence can't support is very optimistic.

You pose the questions you don't answer. Please answer what I asked you

[Adam]

How much pain to a man do you think a rifle blow would cause?

Answer me that one

Best don't get hit with an empty rifle by a 7 stone woman.

Twice.

[ILB]

Best don't get hit with an empty rifle by a 7 stone woman.

Twice.

That's laughable Adam

I answered all your questions

You have to face it

[Adam]

That's laughable Adam

I answered all your questions

You have to face it

Relying on 24 things happening for your scenario to work, is not feasible.

Follow the crime scene evidence and there should not be one thing you need to rely on.

[ILB]

Relying on 24 things happening for your scenario to work, is not feasible.

Follow the crime scene evidence and there should not be one thing.

So both me and yourself rely on a crime scene that was mismanaged

[Adam]

So both me and yourself rely on a crime scene that was mismanaged

Nothing was mismanged.

A Bamber scenario fits the evidence like a glove.

Your scenario is relying on 24 things happening which are nothing to do with the crime scene.

[ILB]

Nothing was mismanged.

A Bamber scenario fits the evidence like a glove.

Your scenario is relying on 24 things happening which are nothing to do with the crime scene.

That's absolute tripe

It was originally termed murder suicide and it for was for a month

There was not so much scene preservation as there was collection

[Adam]

That's absolute tripe

It was originally termed murder suicide and it for was for a month

There was not so much scene preservation as there was collection

You are relying on 24 things you have invented that are nothing to do with the crime scene - 

Invented conversations happening.

Evidence of Sheila being docile & uncordinated being wrong.

Rifle left outside by Nevill & June & repeatedly not put away.

Sheila walking on a creeking floorboard.

Nevill hearing things that are impossible to hear.

Nevill doing nothing worthwhile.

Nevill allowing Sheila to brutally hit his arms, torso and head upstairs. Continually. So hard the rifle butt falls off & Nevill's watch smashes.

Nevill not taking the rifle off Sheila.

June being awake but doing nothing.

Nevill ringing Bamber's AM. After escaping Sheila hitting him and after she has shot the twins 8 times.

Bamber picking up within 2 call attempts.

Nevill allowing Sheila to re load in front of him.

Nevill allowing Sheila to go back upstairs with a loaded rifle.

Nevill burning his own back 3 times.

Sheila getting help to pull Nevill downstairs. After the 2X upstairs beatings and 4 upstairs shots had killed him upstairs.

Sheila getting help to lift Nevill onto the coal scuttle.

Sheila moving the broken rifle butt & Nevill's watch downstairs.

Sheila smashing the kitchen ceiling light.

Sheila scratching the aga.

Sheila achieving everything between 3.10am - 3.50am.

Sheila finding someone to shoot her a second time.

Sheila shooting June at the exact same time Bamber answers. Nevill having super human hearing.

Sheila going into a rage unprovoked. Twice.

Nevill leaving everyone to go downstairs.