End of the road ?

[lookout]

There's more to these murders than meets the eye, not as straightforward as EP would have you believe.

[ILB]

There's more to these murders than meets the eye, not as straightforward as EP would have you believe.

Such as what lookout, what's your opinion on this matter. I am intrigued

[lookout]

Such as what lookout, what's your opinion on this matter. I am intrigued

There seemed to have been some jiggery-pokery prior to the murders with one or two troubling episodes. The brother of Peter Eaton bashing Nevill outside some pub that I'm sure when Nevill told Barbara Wilson about not turning his back on " those two " he'd meant the Eaton brothers, John and Peter.
Did the bashing come before Nevill purchased the land to help out Ann and Peter Eaton ? Where did the brother come in ? What was the row about ?

[snow66!]

I think there's a whole chain of events which starts in early life with a sense of inadequacy or detachment. It's why statistically adoptees commit far more murders than birth children. The pressure mounts during adolscence, which is why drug-taking is such a huge market in 2022. A tiny minority will resort to murder as release.

Am I understanding you right here Steve,do you mean most drug takers and murderers are adoptees? I must be misunderstanding you.

[Steve_uk]

Am I understanding you right here Steve,do you mean most drug takers and murderers are adoptees? I must be misunderstanding you.

No but they are statistically more likely to be: https://www.crimemagazine.com/adoption-forensics-connection-between-adoption-and-murder

[snow66!]

No but they are statistically more likely to be: https://www.crimemagazine.com/adoption-forensics-connection-between-adoption-and-murder

Well,to be honest Steve that is quite eye opening and surprising.Seems you can be turned into a murderer because of adoption.But remember both Sheila and Jeremy were adopted,so it means they BOTH had more chance of killing their parents than non adopted children.And look at the case of Berkowitz,he started his killing spree soon after meeting his birth mother.So,Sheila meeting her birth mother may have done more harm than good,especially in her fragile mental state.What do you think Steve? Could that have been a trigger for Sheila?

[snow66!]

Did Sheilas birth mother have any more children which she kept? In the Berkowitz case,his birth mother had kept and raised another child which caused an even greater sense of rejection and seems to have pushed him over the edge.Yes you may have found something very important here Steve.

[Steve_uk]

Did Sheilas birth mother have any more children which she kept? In the Berkowitz case,his birth mother had kept and raised another child which caused an even greater sense of rejection and seems to have pushed him over the edge.Yes you may have found something very important here Steve.

I think this may be Sheila's half-sister or niece: https://youtu.be/7gxXacyYjaw

However I do think comparing Sheila Caffell with David Berkowitz is a bit of a stretch.

[snow66!]

I think this may be Sheila's half-sister or niece: https://youtu.be/7gxXacyYjaw

However I do think comparing Sheila Caffell with David Berkowitz is a bit of a stretch.

Thanks Steve,thats very interesting.As far as Berkowitz is concerned,of course every case is different,but as you have pointed out,with adoptees there is a definite pattern.Makes you think Steve.With Sheilas mental illness and a shaky relationship with her mother,it is by no means impossible to believe she could have flipped and carried out the massacre,no surprise at all really.Is it?

[Adam]

If only a fully fit Nevill had taken the rifle off Sheila. Instead of ringing Jeremy's AM.

[ILB]

Adam goes on about the AM. His theory has been debunked.

Unable to get to terms with this he just denies it.

[Adam]

Adam goes on about the AM. His theory has been debunked.

Unable to get to terms with this he just denies it.

I thought you agree Nevill rang Bamber's AM.

[ILB]

I thought you agree Nevill rang Bamber's AM.

Not repeatedly

[Adam]

Not repeatedly

Oh yes. Two calls. Each of 3-7 rings would get Bamber awake, alert & downstairs.

[ILB]

Oh yes. Two calls. Each of 3-7 rings would get Bamber awake, alert & downstairs.

3 rings and then to answerphone?

My landline is about nine maybe more.