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Offline Rob_

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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #135 on: July 25, 2022, 12:45:PM »
Yes Rob, but apparently the authorities have said.. 

“there is no documentary evidence either provided or referred to which supports the existence of a second silencer”.

So, what should we make of that?

Well Roch I wonder if there is a silencer in production or once was in production that matches the dimensions of the second silencer? If there is then it's game over for the prosecution.

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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #136 on: July 25, 2022, 12:51:PM »
You can't 'gish gallop' on a forum, you can only really do it in conversation.

On a forum there is plenty of time to go through all the points someone makes, pick out the ones you want, and then answer them with a full narrative answer, in your own time.

'Gish galloping'  is a technique to stop that from happening, but only works in a verbal discussion.

If anything, Adam is giving you all the ammunition you need to shoot his arguments down in your own rime, and yet you don't.  Instead you just accuse him of things like 'gish galloping', and chuck in a few insults. 

The only thing that matters is facts, information, and explanation. 

Responding with one sentence answers declaring someone wrong, or firing off an insult, isn't going to  convince the casual passer by, who genuinely wants to know about the case.  And that will water down your point of view in the eyes of that person.

Adam does 'gish gallop' I am afraid for example he must have posted a million times it 'was a silent massacre' despite MF saying the silencer made hardly any difference.

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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #137 on: July 25, 2022, 03:22:PM »
" A silent massacre"---yes,I can just imagine everyone talking in whispers " don't shoot me ". ::) The dogs weren't Basenji's either, which don't bark. What an idiot !

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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #138 on: July 25, 2022, 03:45:PM »
Adam does 'gish gallop' I am afraid for example he must have posted a million times it 'was a silent massacre' despite MF saying the silencer made hardly any difference.

It was a silent massacre attempt. The silencer ensured all shots were silent.

Obviously there would have been some noise downstairs during the unexpected kitchen struggle.
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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #139 on: July 25, 2022, 03:51:PM »
It certainly wasn't silent in Rob's Sheila scenario. More noise that Piccadilly Circus.

But June, Daniel & Nicholas remained in bed sleeping.
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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #140 on: July 25, 2022, 04:16:PM »
" A silent massacre"---yes,I can just imagine everyone talking in whispers " don't shoot me ". ::) The dogs weren't Basenji's either, which don't bark. What an idiot !

Daniel, Nicholas & June were shot 13 times in bed while they slept.

So didn't say 'don't shoot me'.

Don't rush with your Sheila scenario. It's only been 36 years.
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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #141 on: July 25, 2022, 08:17:PM »
It certainly wasn't silent in Rob's Sheila scenario. More noise that Piccadilly Circus.

But June, Daniel & Nicholas remained in bed sleeping.

Perhaps if you read JM's WS you might see where she says the dogs made a lot of noise whenever anyone approached the house. Are you saying she must be lying because they were not guard dogs  ;) and you have posted many times only guard dogs bark  ::)

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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #142 on: July 27, 2022, 02:16:PM »
Perhaps if you read JM's WS you might see where she says the dogs made a lot of noise whenever anyone approached the house. Are you saying she must be lying because they were not guard dogs  ;) and you have posted many times only guard dogs bark  ::)

I don't recall reading it in her WS. Or that Julie ever tried sneeking into WHF at 2am.
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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #143 on: July 27, 2022, 08:20:PM »
I don't recall reading it in her WS. Or that Julie ever tried sneeking into WHF at 2am.

To me the dogs are a major problem to JB although I understand you cannot admit that Adam.

Perhaps after you have read the Dickinson report you can read JM's WS and start catching up  ;)

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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #144 on: July 27, 2022, 08:25:PM »
To me the dogs are a major problem to JB although I understand you cannot admit that Adam.

Perhaps after you have read the Dickinson report you can read JM's WS and start catching up  ;)

Why would Julie mention the dogs in her WS?

What page does she do this?
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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #145 on: July 27, 2022, 08:37:PM »
Why would Julie mention the dogs in her WS?

What page does she do this?

I cannot remember exactly where Adam, to be honest I don't take much notice of what she says, but if you are really stuck I will dig it out. Is it really surprising that dogs would kick up a racket when someone approaches the house it's quite common you know.
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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #146 on: July 27, 2022, 08:42:PM »
I cannot remember exactly where Adam, to be honest I don't take much notice of what she says, but if you are really stuck I will dig it out. Is it really surprising that dogs would kick up a racket when someone approaches the house it's quite common you know.

Look forward to reading it.
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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #147 on: July 27, 2022, 08:48:PM »
Look forward to reading it.

Why don't you go for a walk in pitch darkness in the country, see how well you can see and how many dogs you set off, you will get a surprise!
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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #148 on: July 29, 2022, 05:10:PM »
Why would Julie mention the dogs in her WS?

What page does she do this?
The dogs..18th November 1985: https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4952.0.html

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Re: End of the road ?
« Reply #149 on: July 29, 2022, 05:30:PM »
The dogs..18th November 1985: https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4952.0.html

Thank you.

That is interesting -

'The dog would yap until it recognised you or you called it's name'.

So likely no or minimal yapping. Impossible for anyone to hear upstairs, asleep behind closed doors.
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