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Offline Adam

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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #165 on: July 14, 2022, 08:06:PM »
I don't have the transcript to hand. I'm guessing the reply was either no comment or can't remember? Please enlighten myself

That's one question. The general jest of the interviews was to trip him up. Because they believed he was gulity. Hence he was arrested

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=296.0
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« Reply #166 on: July 14, 2022, 08:17:PM »
He's in prison Adam, give up.

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« Reply #167 on: July 14, 2022, 08:19:PM »
I don't need a link to lambertons forum. Adam.

I just wanted Bambers reply to that question you said.

Either no comment or I can't remember.

Nothing of those replies he made are detrimental anyway
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« Reply #168 on: July 14, 2022, 08:24:PM »
I don't need a link to lambertons forum. Adam.

I just wanted Bambers reply to that question you said.

Either no comment or I can't remember.

Nothing of those replies he made are detrimental anyway

Believe he said 'I don't remember'.

However did remember that he didn't say 'tonights the night'.
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« Reply #169 on: July 14, 2022, 08:25:PM »
Believe he said 'I don't remember'.

However did remember that he didn't say 'tonights the night'.

We only have Julie's word for that
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« Reply #170 on: July 14, 2022, 08:30:PM »
We only have Julie's word for that

Yes Julie gave a full account of the phone call.

After Bamber had rang her.
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« Reply #171 on: July 14, 2022, 08:30:PM »
My guess is that JM didn't say such a thing. It was part of her own embroidery.

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« Reply #172 on: July 14, 2022, 08:36:PM »
Yes Julie gave a full account of the phone call.

After Bamber had rang her.

Which he disputes.
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« Reply #173 on: July 14, 2022, 08:58:PM »
The questioning was direct. As it would be expected to be. They were accusing him of five counts of murder.

He never confessed. One iota. There was never a modicum admission to anything. He denied everything that was put to him

I guarantee they saw Bamber as wet behind the ears and easy meat. Hence years later Jones recalled he was adamant he'd get a cough. They couldn't break Bamber

Must be the damp conditions in the interview rooms in those days.  I think I'm getting a cough now.

Anyway, regarding Jeremy Bamber's interview techniques...

Lying in your interviews doesn't make you guilty, but Bamber did lie in his interviews.

Getting asked questions about the inconsistencies in his story - that you fail to answer properly, doesn't make you guilty.  But this happened a number of times with Jeremy Bamber during his interviews.

Saying 'No Comment' when your lying gets exposed by your interviewer, does not make you guilty.  But this kept happening with Jeremy Bamber.

Jeremy Bamber lied to the police outside the house.

Jeremy Bamber lied in his statements.

Jeremy Bamber lied in his interviews.

Jeremy Bamber lied at every given opportunity. But it doesn't make him guilty.

But if you look at his lies, and then just for a moment let's assume he is guilty, then those lies do fit with a Bamber is guilty scenario. 

Doesn't make him guilty.  Absolutely does not make him guilty.

But the lies do fit a guilty scenario.  If he was guilty, then the lies become logical, you can see why a guilty person would make them.

But his lies still doesn't make him guilty.  There is lots of other evidence that does that.

The problem with Jeremy Bamber, is that he is a terrible liar.  He so obviously can't remember the lies that he's made previously.  And that makes the lies even more obvious, because DS Jones, his interviewer, can remember the lies he made earlier. 

And DS Jones plays a blinder, all within the new PACE laws that came in a year before.  And all in front of Jeremy Bamber's solicitor who warns Bamber whenever necessary that he doesn't have to answer the questions.

Of course, his solicitor would be very aware of the new PACE laws that became law the year before, and was satisfied that DS Jones had fully complied with them, as he didn't make any complaints.

Anyway, I'm off to gen up on some macho 1970's cop talk, so that I can keep up with the Starsky and Hutch jargon....who loves ya baby?

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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #174 on: July 14, 2022, 09:54:PM »
Must be the damp conditions in the interview rooms in those days.  I think I'm getting a cough now.

Anyway, regarding Jeremy Bamber's interview techniques...

Lying in your interviews doesn't make you guilty, but Bamber did lie in his interviews.

Getting asked questions about the inconsistencies in his story - that you fail to answer properly, doesn't make you guilty.  But this happened a number of times with Jeremy Bamber during his interviews.

Saying 'No Comment' when your lying gets exposed by your interviewer, does not make you guilty.  But this kept happening with Jeremy Bamber.

Jeremy Bamber lied to the police outside the house.

Jeremy Bamber lied in his statements.

Jeremy Bamber lied in his interviews.

Jeremy Bamber lied at every given opportunity. But it doesn't make him guilty.

But if you look at his lies, and then just for a moment let's assume he is guilty, then those lies do fit with a Bamber is guilty scenario. 

Doesn't make him guilty.  Absolutely does not make him guilty.

But the lies do fit a guilty scenario.  If he was guilty, then the lies become logical, you can see why a guilty person would make them.

But his lies still doesn't make him guilty.  There is lots of other evidence that does that.

The problem with Jeremy Bamber, is that he is a terrible liar.  He so obviously can't remember the lies that he's made previously.  And that makes the lies even more obvious, because DS Jones, his interviewer, can remember the lies he made earlier. 

And DS Jones plays a blinder, all within the new PACE laws that came in a year before.  And all in front of Jeremy Bamber's solicitor who warns Bamber whenever necessary that he doesn't have to answer the questions.

Of course, his solicitor would be very aware of the new PACE laws that became law the year before, and was satisfied that DS Jones had fully complied with them, as he didn't make any complaints.

Anyway, I'm off to gen up on some macho 1970's cop talk, so that I can keep up with the Starsky and Hutch jargon....who loves ya baby?

You are being absolutely ridiculous Adam.

As I have stated. Nothing in those September 1985 interviews point to guilt.

The Nancy boy didn't fall victim to South London bullying patter
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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #175 on: July 14, 2022, 10:04:PM »
You are being absolutely ridiculous Adam.

As I have stated. Nothing in those September 1985 interviews point to guilt.

The Nancy boy didn't fall victim to South London bullying patter

It is Killingeve's post.
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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #176 on: July 14, 2022, 10:05:PM »
It is Killing eves post.

No comment :)
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« Reply #177 on: July 14, 2022, 10:07:PM »
Nothing in those September 1985 interviews point to guilt.

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Everything points to guilt.

He just didn't say 'yes I did it'.
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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #178 on: July 14, 2022, 10:07:PM »

The problem with Jeremy Bamber, is that he is a terrible liar.  He so obviously can't remember the lies that he's made previously.  And that makes the lies even more obvious, because DS Jones, his interviewer, can remember the lies he made earlier. 


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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #179 on: July 14, 2022, 10:08:PM »
Nothing in those September 1985 interviews point to guilt.

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Everything points to guilt.

He just didn't say 'yes I did it'.

No he denied everything. Claimed total innocence

A stance he has kept since 1985
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