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Offline ILB

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« Reply #135 on: July 13, 2022, 08:00:PM »
The fact is though. This 24 year old posh boy. With no prior contact with police. Couldn't be broken down by seasoned detectives. Guarantee they wanted a cough. And they couldn't get one

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« Reply #136 on: July 13, 2022, 08:04:PM »
Bamber did say 'no comment' a lot.

His attitude & answers in the police interviews confirms his guilt.

He now knew it was going to be all about the trial.

And he wasn't expecting the interview transcript to go online!

There is nothing in those transcripts that point to guilt at all.

No confession

A few odd no comments is not a tantamount to guilt

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« Reply #137 on: July 13, 2022, 08:06:PM »




He now knew it was going to be all about the trial.

He was bailed, without charge ( apart from the caravan site) and embarked on a holiday with Brett Collins to st Tropez
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« Reply #138 on: July 13, 2022, 08:09:PM »
If you want an example of a family killer who started lying when his story did not fit. Look no further than Sef Gonzales

https://www.smh.com.au/national/lies-lies-lies-sef-gonzales-admits-telling-20-of-them-20040511-gdiwfu.html


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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #139 on: July 13, 2022, 08:10:PM »
If you want an example of a family killer who started lying when his story did not fit. Look no further than Sef Gonzales

https://www.smh.com.au/national/lies-lies-lies-sef-gonzales-admits-telling-20-of-them-20040511-gdiwfu.html

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That singing eulogy he did was so cringeworthy
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« Reply #140 on: July 13, 2022, 08:10:PM »
He hasn't involved himself in any love trysts. Apart from a miniscule period he has been a CAT A prisoner. He may have held hands had " girlfriends" so to speak. But I can guarantee you he hasn't entertained himself. Well tell I lie I bet after 37 years alone he most probably has!

In recent years he has had some high profile support. Peter tatchell Andrew hunter MP. His case was also effectively dead between 1989 and 2001. The wilderness years. It has picked up momentum now there is the high profile of the internet. But no more than any other prisoner.

The WHF drama probably gave the case a large profile boost. I remember at work not too long ago asking people ( all in their sixties ) if they heard of Jeremy bamber and only 20 percent had. It isn't as high profile as you think

High profile criminals in the UK are people like Ian Huntley, Charles Bronson.


ILB, I was careful, when mentioning "love trysts" to use "alleged"! ;D All I can say is that such has/have been claimed!! I would agree that 37 years of celibacy might be trying and hard to cope with!!!

I think it's probably only on forums like this that interest in the case is alive. There are newer and more interesting cases for people to get their teeth into.

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« Reply #141 on: July 13, 2022, 08:16:PM »
Adam it wasn't that he was so much evasive. They were grilling him for a cough. They threatened to chuck Bruce bowler out at one point.

Policing thankfully has changed due to pace

When you say 'pace', don't you mean Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984

This interview was conducted in 1986.

Also his solicitor reminds Bamber that he is under no obligation to answer any questions, which he said at the beginning of this particular sequence of questioning.

Jeremy Bamber volunteered his answers, immediately after his solicitor had reminded him of his rights.

Jeremy Bamber concludes this section of questioning by resorting to 'no comment'

They were hardly 'grilling him for a cough', and it was Bamber who tied himself up in knots.

And as for 'grilling him for a cough'.....you've been watching too much Starskey and Hutch.
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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #142 on: July 13, 2022, 08:18:PM »

ILB, I was careful, when mentioning "love trysts" to use "alleged"! ;D All I can say is that such has/have been claimed!! I would agree that 37 years of celibacy might be trying and hard to cope with!!!

I think it's probably only on forums like this that interest in the case is alive. There are newer and more interesting cases for people to get their teeth into.

I agree Jane.

It is an interesting case. It is your classic " whodunnit" it has a beautiful women, a handsome son.  As the chief suspects.

It happened in the height of thatchers Britain. As a lover of 80s music. I can't think about the case with hearing a sample of ABC look of love in my head!

I had heard of the case back in 1985. I can distinctively either reading about it or watching something on TV about it. But it wasn't until I met Bamber himself I took a greater interest in it. Even when I met Bamber for the first time it was just what he told me. I wasn't privy to documents he had. That was his business. I wasn't his McKenzie man like Mike was.

Believe until the internet came along there was nothing you could really do much research into apart from books and TV documentaries. This site proved a god send.

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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #143 on: July 13, 2022, 08:20:PM »
The fact is though. This 24 year old posh boy. With no prior contact with police. Couldn't be broken down by seasoned detectives. Guarantee they wanted a cough. And they couldn't get one

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Yes, they must have felt like punching him.

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« Reply #144 on: July 13, 2022, 08:21:PM »
When you say 'pace', don't you mean Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984

This interview was conducted in 1986.

Also his solicitor reminds Bamber that he is under no obligation to answer any questions, which he said at the beginning of this particular sequence of questioning.

Jeremy Bamber volunteered his answers, immediately after his solicitor had reminded him of his rights.

Jeremy Bamber concludes this section of questioning by resorting to 'no comment'

They were hardly 'grilling him for a cough', and it was Bamber who tied himself up in knots.

And as for 'grilling him for a cough'.....you've been watching too much Starskey and Hutch.

I think you will find that pace 1984 did not come into effect till long after the Bamber police interviews.

The legislation of it didn't not come into effect till after Bamber. Hence the interview was not tape recorded

The interview happened in September 1985. Not 1986.

The police were going for a cough. Jones referenced it himself years later. And it is what all police interviews are about? Do you realise this?

From a man who has spent a significant period of his life in custody. I do know what I am talking about

Reference bowler, I agree. Maybe Bamber didn't take his advice ?
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« Reply #145 on: July 13, 2022, 08:39:PM »
A lot of innocent people say " no comment " as many " comments " that are made are misconstrued by their examiner and other police who are involved, then embelished and before you know it a full statement is cobbled up and lo and behold you're guilty, so it's best to say nothing and only go on the directions of your solicitor/ lawyer.

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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #146 on: July 13, 2022, 10:28:PM »
There is nothing in those transcripts that point to guilt at all.

No confession

A few odd no comments is not a tantamount to guilt

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The whole interview was one long confession.

It was - we both know I did it. Take me to court and get a guilty verdict. I will fight you.

It becomes obvious by the first page.
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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #147 on: July 13, 2022, 10:33:PM »
A lot of innocent people say " no comment " as many " comments " that are made are misconstrued by their examiner and other police who are involved, then embelished and before you know it a full statement is cobbled up and lo and behold you're guilty, so it's best to say nothing and only go on the directions of your solicitor/ lawyer.

I've only seen 'no comments' from criminals. But feel free to give me alternative examples.

Bamber said 'no comment' sometimes. His other answers were so callous & provocative he might as well say 'no comment'.
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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #148 on: July 14, 2022, 08:00:AM »
I've only seen 'no comments' from criminals. But feel free to give me alternative examples.

Bamber said 'no comment' sometimes. His other answers were so callous & provocative he might as well say 'no comment'.

If you have seen only no comment answers from criminals. Then I'm sorry it just goes to show how wet behind the ears you really are
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Re: Burning down of the caravan park shop.
« Reply #149 on: July 14, 2022, 08:10:AM »
I've only seen 'no comments' from criminals. But feel free to give me alternative examples.

Bamber said 'no comment' sometimes. His other answers were so callous & provocative he might as well say 'no comment'.

Listen to the podcast about JB's police interviews. It's very informative.