Burning down of the caravan park shop.

[Adam]

AE's WS says Bamber was very keen to be involved in a possible revamp or replacement of the caravan shop.

She then says the caravan site shop was burnt down. She had no explanation for this.

Mmmm.

[Adam]

Bamber wanted to be more involved with the farm business. Rather than be a labourer. However Nevill said he had no business sense.

[Roch]

Adam, can you remember 'Jack Black and his dog Silver' from Viz?  He used to solve 'crimes'. His sleuthing approach and the results of his crime-solving are quite AE-esque.

[David1819]

AEs witness statements are full of lies.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1931.msg59842.html#msg59842

[Adam]

Well it is certain the caravan park shop was burnt down. AE couldn't lie about that as it would be too easy to disprove.

The only issue is whether Bamber was keen to be involved in a revamp/replacement.

Lets face it, anything is better than 14 hours a day hard farm labour.

[Adam]

If there was cash in the shop, that could be taken. Prior to the burning. So a win, win.

This would have given him the confidence to escalate a few months later - caravan robbery.

[snow66!]

Well it is certain the caravan park shop was burnt down. AE couldn't lie about that as it would be too easy to disprove.

The only issue is whether Bamber was keen to be involved in a revamp/replacement.

Lets face it, anything is better than 14 hours a day hard farm labour.

Good day Adam.    Hard farm labour=1920s  Clydesdale horse and plow     Moderate farm labour=1950s  Introduction of the little grey Ferguson tractor.      Non[minimal]labour=1980s  Fast track tractors,forklifts and combine harvesters.

[snow66!]

And in JBs case walking through a caravan park.

[David1819]

Who else mentioned the shop allegedly burning down?

[Cambridgecutie]

Who else mentioned the shop allegedly burning down?

Possibly someone called Dennis Wager, as the following is in Carol Ann Lee's book:

Dennis Wager was also hired to construct a new shop at Osea Road after
the old one was destroyed by fire; it was the second case of suspected arson at the site. Jeremy was given the responsibility of planning the layout, advertising the lease, and estimating costs.

Wager disliked working with him: "He appeared full of his own importance. He was also always trying to impress upon people that he was one of the governors."

This excerpt was attributed to:  Dennis Wager's  w/s, 23 September 1985.  But I don't know  if she's attributing Dennis Wager for the whole story, or just the bit in quotes at the end.

Not sure if Dennis Wager's W/S is available anywhere.  I haven't looked.

There isn't anything about Jeremy Bamber actually committing the arson.

[Adam]

Discussions about the caravan site shop started in late 1983.
It was burnt down in March 84.

Maybe things were not progressing or Nevill was not interested.  Bamber was frustrated so decided to be pro active.

[Adam]

Obviously his only options 12 & 19 months later for instant money gains was to rob the caravan site then commit the massacre.

Both of which he did do.

[lookout]

One of which he'd confessed to doing, the other he didn't do.

[ILB]

Bamber the arsonist.

What ever next

[ILB]

Discussions about the caravan site shop started in late 1983.
It was burnt down in March 84.

Maybe things were not progressing or Nevill was not interested.  Bamber was frustrated so decided to be pro active.

What was Nevills role in osea if any? His baby was WHF, north Maldon growers. I thought the speakman Boutflour side of the family ran the osea aspect.