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Offline snow66!

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2022, 09:36:PM »
But DCI Taff Jones has become aware of this call before relatives called into the police station. He sent them away with a flea in their ear, which established his position. Why not tell them of the call from Nevill at this stage?
BUT HE DID TELL THEM ABOUT THE CALL AT THAT STAGE STEVE! Later on however,Taff,West,the ralatives and the entire police force decided,largely through Bambers behavior,that he was guilty,hence they believed he MUST have made both calls to West,one pretending to be Nevill,and that hiding this call/log was the right,decent,logical thing to do,so that the right man was sent down.But did they get the right man Steve?Of course everyone involved with sending JB down will have to continue to convince themselves that they got it right for the sake of their own sanity.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #106 on: July 07, 2022, 09:45:PM »
BUT HE DID TELL THEM ABOUT THE CALL AT THAT STAGE STEVE! Later on however,Taff,West,the ralatives and the entire police force decided,largely through Bambers behavior,that he was guilty,hence they believed he MUST have made both calls to West,one pretending to be Nevill,and that hiding this call/log was the right,decent,logical thing to do,so that the right man was sent down.But did they get the right man Steve?Of course everyone involved with sending JB down will have to continue to convince themselves that they got it right for the sake of their own sanity.

Taff believed JB was innocent and wanted the relatives off his back. Which brings up the problem of Taff not mentioning Nevills call the relatives. Something that he would have undoubtedly done to persuade them. Same applies for the alleged wounds. Taff cannot have brough things up that did not happen.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #107 on: July 07, 2022, 09:54:PM »
Taff believed JB was innocent and wanted the relatives off his back. Which brings up the problem of Taff not mentioning Nevills call the relatives. Something that he would have undoubtedly done to persuade them. Same applies for the alleged wounds. Taff cannot have brough things up that did not happen.
Hi Dave,please read my recent posts again,I just said that Taff DID tell the relatives about Nevills call to get them off his back,but later on everyone[maybe even Taff] decided JB made BOTH calls to West.Imitating Nevill as it were.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #108 on: July 07, 2022, 10:15:PM »
Anyway,why did they time the routes from Whitehouse farm to JBs cottage? What were they trying to prove,establish?

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #109 on: July 07, 2022, 10:24:PM »
So,as far as West is probably concerned,the two calls were merged into one to make sure a Vicious killer was sent rightly sent down.

The call was hidden by fiddling the times Snow.

Bews and Myall's statements left at 3.45

But the Myall note has 3.37 (while JB on line talking to West!)

Ca7 arrives at 3.50 according the West and 3.48 according to MB 's log (impossible if left at 3.45)

According to Bonnet Ca7 left at 3.35 which cannot be due to JB's call if on line to West at 3.37

Then there is the log itself! West would have said something like:

"Hello PC 1990 West here, I have a Mr Bamber on the phone from 9 Head Street, Goldhanger"

West creates two statements one stating 3.26 and the other 3.36 when asked at trial who asked him to write the statement stating 3.26 he can't remember!









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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #110 on: July 07, 2022, 10:32:PM »
The call was hidden by fiddling the times Snow.

Bews and Myall's statements left at 3.45

But the Myall note has 3.37 (while JB on line talking to West!)

Ca7 arrives at 3.50 according the West and 3.48 according to MB 's log (impossible if left at 3.45)

According to Bonnet Ca7 left at 3.35 which cannot be due to JB's call if on line to West at 3.37

Then there is the log itself! West would have said something like:

"Hello PC 1990 West here, I have a Mr Bamber on the phone from 9 Head Street, Goldhanger"

West creates two statements one stating 3.26 and the other 3.36 when asked at trial who asked him to write the statement stating 3.26 he can't remember!
Yes,I would say if you look at all the evidence,a call from Nevill is quite likely Rob,makes sense to me,and as I say,I wasn't desperate for a Nevill call one way or another.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #111 on: July 07, 2022, 10:39:PM »
If Nevill did look through Yellow Pages, there would be one in the kitchen.

Probably next to the cream dial phone left off the hook.

But there is nothing in the crime scene photos.

I'll ask again.

Where was the Yellow Pages?
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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #112 on: July 07, 2022, 10:40:PM »
BUT HE DID TELL THEM ABOUT THE CALL AT THAT STAGE STEVE! Later on however,Taff,West,the ralatives and the entire police force decided,largely through Bambers behavior,that he was guilty,hence they believed he MUST have made both calls to West,one pretending to be Nevill,and that hiding this call/log was the right,decent,logical thing to do,so that the right man was sent down.But did they get the right man Steve?Of course everyone involved with sending JB down will have to continue to convince themselves that they got it right for the sake of their own sanity.

Snow66! you must stop talking rubbish & making things up.

You are getting carried away again.
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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #113 on: July 07, 2022, 10:44:PM »
Being as you've asked the question from your own post it's your place to answer it.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #114 on: July 07, 2022, 10:48:PM »
Nevill calling Bamber's AM is bad enough.

Then Bamber unbelievably called the sixth furthest away police station.

Decades later the CT are claiming Nevill also looked through Yello Pages. Predictably gullible supporters have gone along with it.
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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #115 on: July 07, 2022, 10:50:PM »
Nevill would have instantly disarmed Daniel, Nicholas or Sheila when seeing them with such a low powered rifle.
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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #116 on: July 07, 2022, 10:51:PM »
I'll ask again.

Where was the Yellow Pages?
Sorry Adam,I did not notice that post,maybe being a magistrate he called local police stations regularly,some people can remember phone numbers quite easily,who knows?

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #117 on: July 07, 2022, 10:53:PM »
Sorry Adam,I did not notice that post,maybe being a magistrate he called local police stations regularly,some people can remember phone numbers quite easily,who knows?

Chelmsford was over 20 miles away.

Why would a part time magistrate call police stations?
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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #118 on: July 07, 2022, 10:55:PM »
Anyway,why did they time the routes from Whitehouse farm to JBs cottage? What were they trying to prove,establish?
I will also repeat,why did the police time the routes?

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #119 on: July 07, 2022, 10:58:PM »
Chelmsford was over 20 miles away.

Why would a part time magistrate call police stations?
I have no idea Adam,but it a appears he did.