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Offline snow66!

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2022, 08:47:AM »

Howz about only West heard, and wrote down, to his own satisfaction, JB's exact words. Bonnet only heard, and wrote down, his own version of what West had said that JB had said. Personally, for the purposes of calling emergency services, I'd say Bonnet got it as close as makes no difference, given that he received it third hand...........Now! should you ever have had to do dictation, at school, you'll recall that your work would have been marked down if the punctuation marks were incorrect. We can't expect messages about potential tragedies to be written that way.
Sorry Jane,that is no explanation whatsoever to gloss over the VAST differences.Common sense tells us there had to be two different calls.I hold firm on this.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2022, 08:56:AM »
Yes,then Nevills.

West never said he received a call from Nevill.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2022, 08:58:AM »

Excellent post, killingeve. Wasted on supporters, I fear, but good to see it laid out so clearly, nonetheless.
By no means wasted Jane,but I simply believe that West received two calls,one from Nevill then one from JB,West wrote two logs ,one from Nevills call which he passed to Bonnet,and one from JB.The log which West made from Nevills call simply hasn't seen the light of day.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2022, 09:17:AM »
West never said he received a call from Nevill.
Hi Dave,that is true,BUT he did not say that he DIDN;T receive a call from Nevill.Listen carefully to his interview again,he told the absolute truth,but cleverly reffered to BONNET not receiving a call from Nevill,nothing about receiving one himself.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2022, 09:23:AM »
By no means wasted Jane,but I simply believe that West received two calls,one from Nevill then one from JB,West wrote two logs ,one from Nevills call which he passed to Bonnet,and one from JB.The log which West made from Nevills call simply hasn't seen the light of day.


Perhaps you could give us your reasons for believing such, Snow. Personally, I can think of no good reason to deny something which never occurred.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2022, 09:27:AM »

Perhaps you could give us your reasons for believing such, Snow. Personally, I can think of no good reason to deny something which never occurred.
For me Jane,the different wording in the two logs prove it,you know this to be true.Dont fight it any more Jane. :))

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2022, 09:27:AM »
The facts speak for themselves.  The sender and receiver boxes in my example prove who made the calls.  Nevill Bamber did not make one of those calls. 

The time stamps that Jeremy Bamber talks about are irrelevant.

As for the lawyers, they don't care about the truth, they only care about representing their client.

Michael Turner QC represented Bamber in the 2002 CoA.  At the time, he did an interview with the Telegraph, and here are some quotes from that article...

If you ever find yourself accused of murder, covered in blood and holding a smoking gun, Michael Turner is the man to call. “If you say you didn’t do it, the gun was planted and it’s a stitch-up, then fine,” says this leading defence lawyer. “You want me to believe you – or at least appear to – and put that case with passion.”


“It’s not my job to believe my client. It’s my job to represent him.”


What if he realises halfway through a trial that his client is evil? “Whether I think my client is an evil individual or not is neither here nor there.”






EP messed up regarding the phone-calls, each one within 10 minutes of each other------BOTH Mr Bambers and this is where the confusion set in. Doubtless their voices would have been similar too causing even more confusion during that hour of the morning. EP took it that both calls then came from the same place,namely Goldhanger,JB's house.

Where there is a 999 call, that line can trace where the call came from even if the person is unable to speak. Did anyone bother to trace Nevill's call ? Someone wrote it down and it wasn't because JB had given out his father's address during his own call because a car was already being sent out after Nevill's call at 03.26.

I had 3 relatives whose voices on the phone had been uncannily similar and at times I had to stop and think who it was who'd phoned !

Besides anything else, voices/calls are recorded on 999 calls, for reference.Where are these tapes ??

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2022, 10:09:AM »
For me Jane,the different wording in the two logs prove it,you know this to be true.Dont fight it any more Jane. :))


Oh! I didn't realize that A) they had telepathic qualities, B) they were cloned. It surely doesn't require much grey matter to reason that one person relaying another person's message to a third person, when all three are in different places, isn't going to be either written or spoken verbatim!!
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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2022, 10:12:AM »
Sorry Jane,that is no explanation whatsoever to gloss over the VAST differences.Common sense tells us there had to be two different calls.I hold firm on this.


As you're the one claiming "VAST differences", please list them.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2022, 10:30:AM »
Hi Dave,that is true,BUT he did not say that he DIDN;T receive a call from Nevill.Listen carefully to his interview again,he told the absolute truth,but cleverly reffered to BONNET not receiving a call from Nevill,nothing about receiving one himself.

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He also did not say he didn't receive a call from Mr Blobby. So maybe that happened also?

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2022, 11:30:AM »
Hi Dave,that is true,BUT he did not say that he DIDN;T receive a call from Nevill.Listen carefully to his interview again,he told the absolute truth,but cleverly reffered to BONNET not receiving a call from Nevill,nothing about receiving one himself.

The accusation levelled by Jeremy Bamber is that Malcolm Bonnett received a call from Nevill Bamber.  He is not saying that PC West took a call from Nevill Bamber.

In relation to these two 'call logs', Jeremy Bamber has never accused PC West of taking a call from Nevill Bamber.

So when Michael West made that interview, he was responding to those accusations, and only those accusations.

Micheal West didn't cleverly refer to anything, as you say he did, he merely addressed the accusations that had been made by Jeremy Bamber over the last decade or more.

Therefore, why would he deny something that he has never been accused of doing?

But that is what you are doing.  You are accusing PC West of taking a call from Nevill Bamber purely because he didn't explicitly say that he didn't take a call.

You are now just creating fiction.
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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #71 on: July 07, 2022, 11:47:AM »
Sorry Jane,that is no explanation whatsoever to gloss over the VAST differences.Common sense tells us there had to be two different calls.I hold firm on this.

There were 2 different calls.

Bamber to West.

West to Bonnett.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #72 on: July 07, 2022, 03:34:PM »
Police can question you until you reach a stage of confusion, which is their way of twisting what you said in the first place. This method is by no means a clever one !!

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2022, 05:21:PM »
Hi Dave,that is true,BUT he did not say that he DIDN;T receive a call from Nevill.Listen carefully to his interview again,he told the absolute truth,but cleverly reffered to BONNET not receiving a call from Nevill,nothing about receiving one himself.

He also never said he made two statements one with a call stating 3.26 and another stating 3.36, I think the listeners would have been very surprised if they knew the full facts.

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Re: Two hundred pieces of evidence against Bamber
« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2022, 06:42:PM »
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He also did not say he didn't receive a call from Mr Blobby. So maybe that happened also?
Did Mr Blobby exist in 1985 Dave? I am not sure!