Could Livor Mortis Help Prove Jeremy Bamber is innocent

[Jane]

Come to think of it, I've always been suspicious of the court usher at trial.

Very naughty, Adam.................still, you may have a point

[Adam]

Very naughty, Adam.................still, you may have a point

I see a 'Court Usher' thread being created.

[Jane]

I see a 'Court Usher' thread being created.

I will leave that one in your more than capable hands, Adam!

[snow66!]

Hello everyone,if you have read this topic and understood it,you will know it has nothing whatsoever to do with blaming anyone or going down the conspiracy route.It can be summed up in a few sentences.If Essex police have not yet handed over the morgue photos to JBs solicitors and the campaign team,please do so,if however the photos have already been handed over to JBs solicitor and campaign team,i suggest they get an expert to compare them with the crime scene photos for livor mortis staining.Thats all,no blame being pointed at anyone,and no one is being accused of conspiring to frame JB in any way.What do you say to that-Jane,Adam-when you have stopped giggling at my theories.

[Jane]

Hello everyone,if you have read this topic and understood it,you will know it has nothing whatsoever to do with blaming anyone or going down the conspiracy route.It can be summed up in a few sentences.If Essex police have not yet handed over the morgue photos to JBs solicitors and the campaign team,please do so,if however the photos have already been handed over to JBs solicitor and campaign team,i suggest they get an expert to compare them with the crime scene photos for livor mortis staining.Thats all,no blame being pointed at anyone,and no one is being accused of conspiring to frame JB in any way.What do you say to that-Jane,Adam-when you have stopped giggling at my theories.

Snow, you imply potential blame in the suggestion that Essex Police maybe deliberately withholding information which could lead to JB's release (there is also the question of whether JB's solicitor ascertained, from them, that ALL relevant documentation had been handed over) Blame is also implied where you suggest that previous experts may not have been quite competently expert enough, in discerning livor mortis, to find in JB's favour. I know from the days of my late partner being the chosen expert witness for his industry, that the views of expert witnesses vary. It seems to me that the more supporters dig to find stones to lift, and find there's nothing under them, the clearer it seems that JB is where he belongs.

[snow66!]

Snow, you imply potential blame in the suggestion that Essex Police maybe deliberately withholding information which could lead to JB's release (there is also the question of whether JB's solicitor ascertained, from them, that ALL relevant documentation had been handed over) Blame is also implied where you suggest that previous experts may not have been quite competently expert enough, in discerning livor mortis, to find in JB's favour. I know from the days of my late partner being the chosen expert witness for his industry, that the views of expert witnesses vary. It seems to me that the more supporters dig to find stones to lift, and find there's nothing under them, the clearer it seems that JB is where he belongs.

Well,all that i am asking Jane,is that someone lifts the stone up that the morgue photos are under and take a peek,and if they prove nothing,then you can be even MORE sure that JB is where he belongs.

[Jane]

Well,all that i am asking Jane,is that someone lifts the stone up that the morgue photos are under and take a peek,and if they prove nothing,then you can be even MORE sure that JB is where he belongs.

Perhaps you could clarify which pictures you believe are being held. Photos don't seem to have been withheld from the defence, and they don't seem to have questioned their validity at the time. They had the advantage of seeing the originals, whilst we can only see pictures of pictures, which gives supporters carte blanche to make unsubstantiated claims, many of which seem to have become accepted as being true with only supposition to back them.

[snow66!]

Perhaps you could clarify which pictures you believe are being held. Photos don't seem to have been withheld from the defence, and they don't seem to have questioned their validity at the time. They had the advantage of seeing the originals, whilst we can only see pictures of pictures, which gives supporters carte blanche to make unsubstantiated claims, many of which seem to have become accepted as being true with only supposition to back them.

Please read reply no78 above Jane.

[snow66!]

There is a programme on channel 4 at the moment called 'corrupt cops,what the met knew'.You can watch it again on channel 4+1 at 8.30-9.00.

[snow66!]

Hello three members and two guests.Not much going happening on the forum tonight,most members and guests are away to Jubilee street parties.Some of the members may return to the forum when they get home again,but they will full of drink and will just talk rubbish.They will use a lot of foul language and argue continually,so be prepared if you are easily offended.Anyway,the only Jubilee that i remember about was in 1977,i was ten years old at primary school.Every pupil got a brown mug and a coin,i cant remember what the coin was worth,i haven't looked at it for years.It was a great celebration all over the country that year,anyone around the age of 50 or older will have fond memories i would imagine.We had various events going on through the day at the local school and play park.Then in the evening there was a party/dance for all in the local pub,finally there was a bonfire and fireworks in a nearby field.It was a wonderful day.There isnt much going on here for this Jubilee though,the local pub is closed down and made into flats,and there is no street party,although there is a gathering in the play park on sunday.Oh well,without a Monarchy there would have been no Jubilee in 1977 and no fond memories.I think the UK would be that bit less interesting without the Queen.People argue that the monarchy costs the country a lot of money,but they bring in a fair bit of money to the country through tourism and the such.Oh well ,hope you're all enjoying the Queens Platinum Jubillee,no matter what you think of the monarchy.Bye for now my friends.

[Rob_]

There is a programme on channel 4 at the moment called 'corrupt cops,what the met knew'.You can watch it again on channel 4+1 at 8.30-9.00.

Hi Snow, have you read professor Bernard Knight's statement? it's quite interesting in it he talks about the time between murder and the final suicide can be quite long etc.

[snow66!]

Hi Snow, have you read professor Bernard Knight's statement? it's quite interesting in it he talks about the time between murder and the final suicide can be quite long etc.

Hi Rob,no i haven't,is in in the Archive statements?

[Rob_]

Hi Rob,no i haven't,is in in the Archive statements?

Yes give it a read Snow it's interesting.

[snow66!]

Will do Rob.

[Steve_uk]

Hello three members and two guests.Not much going happening on the forum tonight,most members and guests are away to Jubilee street parties.Some of the members may return to the forum when they get home again,but they will full of drink and will just talk rubbish.They will use a lot of foul language and argue continually,so be prepared if you are easily offended.Anyway,the only Jubilee that i remember about was in 1977,i was ten years old at primary school.Every pupil got a brown mug and a coin,i cant remember what the coin was worth,i haven't looked at it for years.It was a great celebration all over the country that year,anyone around the age of 50 or older will have fond memories i would imagine.We had various events going on through the day at the local school and play park.Then in the evening there was a party/dance for all in the local pub,finally there was a bonfire and fireworks in a nearby field.It was a wonderful day.There isnt much going on here for this Jubilee though,the local pub is closed down and made into flats,and there is no street party,although there is a gathering in the play park on sunday.Oh well,without a Monarchy there would have been no Jubilee in 1977 and no fond memories.I think the UK would be that bit less interesting without the Queen.People argue that the monarchy costs the country a lot of money,but they bring in a fair bit of money to the country through tourism and the such.Oh well ,hope you're all enjoying the Queens Platinum Jubillee,no matter what you think of the monarchy.Bye for now my friends.

I recall street parties in Blackpool during the 1977 Jubilee. There were very few in my area. I think it would be a good time to retire now for the sake of her health and let Charles finally take over.