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Offline notsure

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Re: A letter, between "star crossed lovers", stamped, 6th April 1987...
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2016, 06:01:PM »
Have you ever written to JB??

never and don't intend to Caroline.

I wouldn't because I am still sitting on the fence although I know I come across as believing in his innocence. It's just that I don't find the evidence damming enough to convince me of his guilt.


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Re: A letter, between "star crossed lovers", stamped, 6th April 1987...
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2016, 06:20:PM »
Could we not get into Simon Hall's letters please, or I fear we'll still be reading them on New Year's Day.

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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2016, 06:21:PM »
am saying I cannot see the similarities.

What about the Kenny Richie case? Any similarities there? http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/former-death-row-scot-kenny-6497071

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/former-death-row-scot-kenny-6497071

Do you think Karen Torely had hybristophiliacs?

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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2016, 06:45:PM »
Are you going to play Karen Torley in the film..

 ;D ;D  We are going off topic Steve but no I can't act. Plus a film probably wouldn't be long enough, would need to be a mini series.. One for each marriage. According to this article, after marrying her death row inmate she ended up running off with his 'convict' brother http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/former-death-row-scot-kenny-6497071

The brother (Tom)was also on death row serving 65 years for murder?

I've never bothered reading about this case but did Karen Torley help free a psychopath from Death row?


"A KILLER who shared a Death Row cell with Kenny Richey last night branded the Scot a liar who "conned Scotland".

Robert "Bulldog" Van Hook wrote to the Sunday Mail from Ohio State Penitentiary where he was Richey's best pal.

The 48-year-old claims Richey:

Had three gay lovers on Death Row - including one who was a serial killer.

Conned Scots into backing his freedom campaign.

Threatened to throw his Scots girlfriend off a cliff.

Richey spent 21 years in a US jail for killing two-year-old Cynthia Collins in an arson attack.

He was being freed in January after making a 'no contest' plea to involuntary manslaughter.


Van Hook - sentenced to death for murdering a gay man he picked up in a bar - said: "When Kenny first came to Death Row I took him under my wing and protected him, looked out for him.

"He had three prison sex affairs - one with one of the most notorious serial killers on Ohio's Death Row.

"He also told me things about his case - what he was really doing the night Cynthia Collins died - that will make your toes curl."


Van Hook said he wrote to Richey's ex-fiancee Karen Torley, who led the campaign for his release, and warned he was using her to con people into believing him.

He added: "I told her he was an attention-seeking, manipulative little b***. He said he was going to dump her when he was done with her.

"He said he'd take her to the cliffs of Dover and throw her big fat ass over."

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/exclusive-kenny-richeys-death-row-981227
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Re: A letter, between "star crossed lovers", stamped, 6th April 1987...
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2016, 10:44:PM »
I prefer the Vera Lynn version myself..https://youtu.be/Hqtaoz4QFX8
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Re: A letter, between "star crossed lovers", stamped, 6th April 1987...
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2016, 09:28:AM »
I prefer the Vera Lynn version myself..https://youtu.be/Hqtaoz4QFX8




That was lovely and quite appropriate for me this morning as I attend a funeral.

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Re: A letter, between "star crossed lovers", stamped, 6th April 1987...
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2016, 06:57:PM »
A letter, between "star crossed lovers", stamped, 6th April 1987...





Just seen this. I have letters from Jeremy (not in capitals) and the writing looks nothing at all like the above.  Extremely different.

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Re: A letter, between "star crossed lovers", stamped, 6th April 1987...
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2016, 07:06:PM »




Just seen this. I have letters from Jeremy (not in capitals) and the writing looks nothing at all like the above.  Extremely different.

Maybe he got another prisoner to write it for him?

Have you seen all the other posts or just this one?

And another point being, he's never denied the letter.


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Re: A letter, between "star crossed lovers", stamped, 6th April 1987...
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2016, 08:28:PM »




Just seen this. I have letters from Jeremy (not in capitals) and the writing looks nothing at all like the above.  Extremely different.





Writing does alter as you get older especially if there's a need for glasses. The way I see it,Jeremy hasn't always worn glasses ?
AA,perhaps if you compare those letters which had been written in the late 80's to date,you'll notice a difference.

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Re: A letter, between "star crossed lovers", stamped, 6th April 1987...
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2016, 03:05:AM »
Oh I agree ladies - ones writing can change frequently.

I'm only stating the writing is in no way similar to the writings I have and like others have mentioned approx 90% of his letters are in capitals..... and are pretty consistent in text over almost 20 years.