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Offline Cambridgecutie

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #120 on: October 20, 2024, 04:43:PM »
Therefore CC is not me (as someone suggested)

I am like the Scarlet Pimpernel:

"They seek him here, they seek him there / Those Frenchies seek him everywhere / Is he in heaven, or is he in hell?/ My own elusive Pimpernel"
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #121 on: October 20, 2024, 04:56:PM »
Definitely, and even worse that that, even people like Colin Caffell and Brett Collins to give a few examples, neither of whom were in any sense "participants" or had anything to gain from Jeremy being convicted are also called liars.

I would not say they are liars.  They simply believe a version of events. 

It is only relatively recent BC has popped up.  He contributed to Theroux's doc and if I recall correctly said he thought it would be JB's style to pay a hitman.

CC has something to gain emotionally.  Far easier for him to believe his former brother-in-law is responsible for murdering his young sons than their mother.  Assuage his guilt.  Not that he is in any way responsible.  But to believe its JB means he doesn't have to have the conversation with himself about whether he could/should have done more, seen it coming, not allowed the twins to visit WHF etc, etc. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #122 on: October 20, 2024, 06:08:PM »
Yes the soc image shows SC lying completely flat but there's some evidence that this position wasn't the position she was found in.  EG A/PS Woodcock:

"I was aware that Sheila Bamber was lying flat on her back with her head slightly raised as it was against a bedside locker".

Ironically this chimes with the prosecution case at the 2002 appeal.  Testimony form Martyn Ismail:

518. To decide whether we considered that the interests of justice required that we heard Mr Ismail's evidence, we first had regard to the evidence that it was said that he could give. From the blood staining he concluded that following the second and fatal shot Sheila Caffell was lying almost flat on her back with her head propped against a bedside cabinet.

It would seem SC's found position was with her head propped up against the bedside cabinet and that at some stage she was pulled by her feet thus causing her head to fall flat to the floor and dislodging blood that had pooled in the back of her throat.

That’s one person and regardless of any of that. By the time the CS pictures were taken she couldn’t have still been bleeding. Any blood in the back of her throat would have congealed. The the outside blood - dried.
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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #123 on: October 20, 2024, 07:14:PM »
That’s one person and regardless of any of that. By the time the CS pictures were taken she couldn’t have still been bleeding. Any blood in the back of her throat would have congealed. The the outside blood - dried.

That one person happened to be someone who first observed SC.  His testimony is supported by a forensic scientist. 

Blood around NB was described as pooled not congealed. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #124 on: November 01, 2024, 05:53:PM »
https://youtu.be/NthBz9Lyjdo?si=XQxFGVXw0ar8eT1L

Here is another more general CAL interview.
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Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #125 on: November 01, 2024, 06:18:PM »
https://youtu.be/NthBz9Lyjdo?si=XQxFGVXw0ar8eT1L

Here is another more general CAL interview.
What a shame women authors feel they need anonymity in this day and age.
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