Author Topic: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.  (Read 5243 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ILB

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13151
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2024, 10:47:PM »
George Barwood seems to believe that Nevill called Jeremy before being shot and then presumably went back upstairs to be shot by Sheila and then came downstairs again to be shot again and killed.

No idea of the events and can not rule anything out.

He may have made the initial call not on the kitchen phone.

It's perfectly feasible that an injury to his mouth rendering him unable to speak came after the phonecall to Jeremy.

He may have attempted to use the kitchen phone in the kitchen onslaught.

This is not a pro Bamber argument from me. This is just mere fact.
If yesterday you hated me. Then today you can not stop the love that binds from me to you. And you to me

Offline Adam

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 44381
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2024, 10:52:PM »
George Barwood seems to believe that Nevill called Jeremy before being shot and then presumably went back upstairs to be shot by Sheila and then came downstairs again to be shot again and killed.

I know supporters say that. The defence at trial & CAL believe that is not possible.

Nevill would instantly take the rifle off Sheila rather than start calling Bamber's AM at 3am.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline ILB

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13151
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2024, 01:08:AM »
I know supporters say that. The defence at trial & CAL believe that is not possible.

Nevill would instantly take the rifle off Sheila rather than start calling Bamber's AM at 3am.

On planet adam
If yesterday you hated me. Then today you can not stop the love that binds from me to you. And you to me

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2024, 09:52:AM »
I don't believe it is either.

But Adam says it is.

If it can be sourced that it has been doctored I will recognise it.

As I have mentioned before. I have crime scene photos that are not on this forum or on the internet. The photos I have show Sheila at different angles than the alleged doctored photo. The blood is the same on all photos. Nothing has been edited.

I have shared these photos with NGB. Maybe he could comment on it?

Its rather tedious that I have to keep repeating this. I also have documents from the CCRC dealing with what Giovanni Distefano had submitted. Nowhere do they claim the photos have been doctored.


« Last Edit: October 16, 2024, 10:24:AM by David1819 »

Offline ngb1066

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6671
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2024, 10:50:AM »
As I have mentioned before. I have crime scene photos that are not on this forum or on the internet. The photos I have show Sheila at different angles than the alleged doctored photo. The blood is the same on all photos. Nothing has been edited.

I have shared these photos with NGB. Maybe he could comment on it?

Its rather tedious that I have to keep repeating this. I also have documents from the CCRC dealing with what Giovanni Distefano had submitted. Nowhere do they claim the photos have been doctored.

I can confirm what David has said.


Offline Adam

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 44381
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2024, 11:47:AM »
As I have mentioned before. I have crime scene photos that are not on this forum or on the internet. The photos I have show Sheila at different angles than the alleged doctored photo. The blood is the same on all photos. Nothing has been edited.

I have shared these photos with NGB. Maybe he could comment on it?

Its rather tedious that I have to keep repeating this. I also have documents from the CCRC dealing with what Giovanni Distefano had submitted. Nowhere do they claim the photos have been doctored.

So why are there photos online which show the blood either dry looking or bright red?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2024, 11:58:AM »
So why are there photos online which show the blood either dry looking or bright red?

Because one photo is actually a photograph of a photograph that mike took and he seems to have taken it in a room with little light. Making the entire scene look very dark.

Offline Zoso

  • Administrator
  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2440
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2024, 03:03:PM »
The photo posted above is the original, whereas di Stefano appeared in one of the docu videos showing, let us say, a more saturated one with blood "flowing" (as he put it) from two neck wounds.

Exactly! Sorry, I didn't see that you had posted the photo before my last post. I've posted it so many times to deaf ears that I literally couldn't be bothered. However, it shows perfectly what Craig saw when he viewed Sheila soon after discovery. It's game over with this picture as far as Bamber is concerned! 

Offline ILB

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13151
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2024, 04:24:PM »
As I have mentioned before. I have crime scene photos that are not on this forum or on the internet. The photos I have show Sheila at different angles than the alleged doctored photo. The blood is the same on all photos. Nothing has been edited.

I have shared these photos with NGB. Maybe he could comment on it?

Its rather tedious that I have to keep repeating this. I also have documents from the CCRC dealing with what Giovanni Distefano had submitted. Nowhere do they claim the photos have been doctored.

Thanks for enlightening me Dave
If yesterday you hated me. Then today you can not stop the love that binds from me to you. And you to me

Offline BarefootDanC

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 973
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2024, 09:05:PM »
As I have mentioned before. I have crime scene photos that are not on this forum or on the internet. The photos I have show Sheila at different angles than the alleged doctored photo. The blood is the same on all photos. Nothing has been edited.

I have shared these photos with NGB. Maybe he could comment on it?

Its rather tedious that I have to keep repeating this. I also have documents from the CCRC dealing with what Giovanni Distefano had submitted. Nowhere do they claim the photos have been doctored.

Do you have the CCRC's 2012 Statement of Reasons?

Offline BarefootDanC

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 973
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2024, 10:51:PM »
I have the document I will not be uploading it on this forum due to respect of Jeremy Bambers confidentiality. I also wouldn't feel comfortable in uploading it.

Certain documents I have uploaded previously have been taken down. Which is fair enough. Which is construed to myself thay certain individuals have not been happy with it. Which again is fair enough.

It would be very embarrassing to Jeremy Bamber if someone published it. People would be able to see that nearly all of the Campaign Team's arguments have already been refuted.

If the Statement of Reasons is kept confidential, people can chose to believe that CCRC are corrupt or biased.

Offline ILB

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13151
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2024, 11:05:PM »
It would be very embarrassing to Jeremy Bamber if someone published it. People would be able to see that nearly all of the Campaign Team's arguments have already been refuted.

If the Statement of Reasons is kept confidential, people can chose to believe that CCRC are corrupt or biased.

I disagree it would be embarrassing.

Whatever your own personal view on the case it Jeremy Bamber is in a upheaval position. Trying to satisfy the ccrc is no easy feat.  It's already had one appeal knockback.

However I can see why he'd be reluctant to share it as he may be afraid it would lose moral and support to his campaign.
If yesterday you hated me. Then today you can not stop the love that binds from me to you. And you to me

Offline Zoso

  • Administrator
  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2440
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2024, 06:06:AM »
Thanks for enlightening me Dave

A photograph of a photograph wouldn't make blood look dried and cracked if it wasn't dried and cracked. It is obvious that sheila was dead for some time.

Offline Adam

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 44381
Re: Audio interview with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2024, 05:40:PM »
Because one photo is actually a photograph of a photograph that mike took and he seems to have taken it in a room with little light. Making the entire scene look very dark.

So why are the CT saying it is proof Sheila died later?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline Adam

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 44381
Re: Audio interviews with Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2024, 05:43:PM »
It's just di Stefano playing silly beggars with an over-saturated photo, whereas in the original the glossy effect was caused by reflection of flashgun light from dried and cracked blood.  Have a proper gander at this -

This photo negates the movement inside, 999 calls, 2 bodies in the kitchen etc.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.