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Rob's Sheila scenario.
« on: March 23, 2022, 09:37:PM »
General Notes:

It is not possible to know the exact circumstances leading up to Sheila’s meltdown that night, but the lack of a 999 call strongly supports in my view Shelia doing the crime. If it was anybody else or JB Nevil would have desperately tried to dial 999 but because it was Sheila he did not want blue lights racing to the farm and arousing attention.

To me there was more of a scuffle than a violent fight in the kitchen, (the RAID team knocked over several chairs and sugar) which points more to Shelia, Nevil was wounded and so Shelia was able to get the upper hand. If JB did the crime there would have been no fight at all in my view.

I am not happy with the blood trails, I would have expected a lot more of Nevil’s blood upstairs and on the stairs.


Scenario

Below is how I think the events might have unfolded:

3.00 AM Something wakes Nevil, looking over to the bedroom door he can see that the lights are on outside. He gets up carefully not to wake June and goes downstairs to find a very distressed Sheila.
They start arguing and she suddenly grabs the gun and waving it around breaks the lampshade, he makes a grab for it but she is to quick and runs away. 3.15 approx. Nevil decides to call JB telling him Sheila has got the gun etc.

3.26AM Nevil can hear Sheila getting worse and decides to cut the call to JB and call the police, he does not want blue lights everywhere and he knows the number so calls the station direct rather than 999. Sheila hears Nevil making call and this makes her go mad.
Sheila in a total rage now races upstairs and at close range shoots the boys once each, then goes through the box room into her parent’s room and shoots June once at point blank range. She hears Nevil running up the stairs and as he approaches the bedroom door she shoots him three times from inside the bedroom, he backs away and she follows him shooting him again from the landing area. Nevil badly wounded tries to get back to the phone but Sheila follows him down into the kitchen shoots him till she is out of bullets. Nevil’s strength fading he slumps over a chair Sheila attacks him with the rifle until he is no longer a threat.

Sheila now reloads and shoots Nevil once more at point blank range, then she goes back up stairs. June badly wounded tries to fight back but Sheila has the rifle …..

Sheila’s rage dies down and she can’t believe what she has done, she goes to the bathroom and washes her face and hands and does her nails. Going back to the bedroom and looking out the window she sees JB and two policeman, she see’s them duck down and run back up the road.
She places the rifle by one of the widows and waits not knowing what to do, suddenly she hears the police breaking in. She grabs the rifle lies down and shoots herself once, a policeman hears the shot and shouts out “Sheila make your ……”

A policeman is looking down at Sheila and wanting to make the rifle safe tries to remove the magazine suddenly it goes off accidentally…..

Final Notes:
There are several sources that Sheila had only one wound for example DCS Harris “A .22 rifle was lying along Mrs CAFFELLS’s body, the barrel of which was resting just below an entry wound to her chin”

There was no silencer on the rifle.

To me a Sheila scenario is not important as the police were happy the crime scene was consistent with 4 murders and a suicide, but hopefully it stops Adam pulling all the wallpaper off his walls!
« Last Edit: March 23, 2022, 09:50:PM by Adam »
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Re: Rob's scenario.
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2022, 09:39:PM »
He goes on about how Bamber wouldn't cycle to WHF in my scenario enough.

I'll paste my previous 34 questions again. Hopefully he will attempt to amswer more than 4.
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Re: Rob's scenario.
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2022, 09:40:PM »
the lack of a 999 call strongly supports in my view Shelia doing the crime. If it was anybody else or JB Nevil would have desperately tried to dial 999

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Nevill could not dial 999 if it was Bamber. He had no time.

The CT say Nevill phoned Chelmsford police station direct
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Re: Rob's scenario.
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2022, 09:41:PM »
The kitchen fight was violent & Nevill had horrific injuries prior to being lifted onto the coal scuttle.
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Re: Rob's scenario.
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2022, 09:43:PM »
3.00 AM Something wakes Nevil

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But no one else. What woke him?
« Last Edit: March 23, 2022, 09:44:PM by Adam »
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Re: Rob's scenario.
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2022, 09:45:PM »
find a very distressed Sheila.

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Distressed about what?
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2022, 09:46:PM »
he makes a grab for it but she is to quick and runs away. 3.15 approx. Nevil decides to call JB telling him Sheila has got the gun etc.

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Nevill as a father, husband, grandfather, head of family & 10 inches 7 stone heavier/taller than Sheila would negate the situation. Or follow Sheila as she 'runs away'.

Bamber is 3 miles away. Sleeping 'like a log'.
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Re: Rob's scenario.
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2022, 09:48:PM »
Nevil can hear Sheila getting worse and decides to cut the call to JB and call the police

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What is Sheila doing between 3.15a - 3.26am.

Why would it take 9 minutes to call Bamber?
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2022, 09:49:PM »
he does not want blue lights everywhere and he knows the number so calls the station direct rather than 999

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How would that stop blue lights?
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Re: Rob's scenario.
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2022, 09:50:PM »
shoots June once at point blank range

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June was shot 5 times in bed.
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Re: Rob's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2022, 09:51:PM »
he backs away

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Nevill backing away again? His first two shots were from inches away.
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Re: Rob's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2022, 09:52:PM »
washes her face and hands 

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That would not remove GSR.
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Re: Rob's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2022, 09:53:PM »
June badly wounded tries to fight back but Sheila has the rifle …..

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None of June's blood was found on Sheila. June was shot 5 times in bed.
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Re: Rob's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2022, 09:54:PM »
Now read your scenario Adam, if the conviction was safe it should be full of damming detail, but there is nothing!

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Re: Rob's Sheila scenario.
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2022, 09:54:PM »
A policeman is looking down at Sheila and wanting to make the rifle safe tries to remove the magazine suddenly it goes off accidentally…

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Agree someone else must have fired the second shot.
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