Liklihood of Sheila resisting during the massacre:

[Jane]

Hi Jane,how are you today.Maybe i didnt make it clear.The amusing part isnt the fact that no one heard anything at the nearest farm,its the fact Sheila didnt hear anything a few feet away.

Can you substantiate that claim?

[snow66!]

Can you substantiate that claim?

What claim Jane? I dont understand.

[guest29835]

No because the gist is the same, whether the word zombie was used or not.

Was the word 'zombie' used or not?

I am aware of Pamela Boutflour having given 7 statements to Essex Police during the period August to October 1985.  Not one of those statements mentions any remotely resembling what you claim.

You say this is a statement dated 10th. September 1985. I have 7 statements, but there is no statement from Pamela Boutflour of that date. 

Please post up this missing statement of 10th. September 1985 or tell us your source.

Thank you.

[Jane]

What claim Jane? I dont understand.

The claim that "it's the fact that Sheila didn't hear anything a few feet away".

[snow66!]

The claim that "it's the fact that Sheila didn't hear anything a few feet away".

Ha,ha,ha, This is ADAMS famous claim Jane,not mine.

[Jane]

Ha,ha,ha, This is ADAMS famous claim Jane,not mine.

Of course, it maybe on another thread, but I can't find those exact words you claim Adam said, on this one, although he does highlight, several times, about her drowsy state due to medication. It's perfectly possible that, had she been in a very deep sleep because of her medication, she wouldn't have heard anything had there actually been anything to hear, but this is something we can't know.

[snow66!]

Was the word 'zombie' used or not?

I am aware of Pamela Boutflour having given 7 statements to Essex Police during the period August to October 1985.  Not one of those statements mentions any remotely resembling what you claim.

You say this is a statement dated 10th. September 1985. I have 7 statements, but there is no statement from Pamela Boutflour of that date. 

Please post up this missing statement of 10th. September 1985 or tell us your source.

Thank you.

Maybe Pams statement says that June had told her that Sheila had been on holiday to Haiti and hed got mixed up in voodoo,and after she had returned home,had turned into a zombie.

[snow66!]

Of course, it maybe on another thread, but I can't find those exact words you claim Adam said, on this one, although he does highlight, several times, about her drowsy state due to medication. It's perfectly possible that, had she been in a very deep sleep because of her medication, she wouldn't have heard anything had there actually been anything to hear, but this is something we can't know.

So you are of the same opinion Jane,it was quite a quiet massacre without many screams of pain.I just cant agree with this,sorry!

[Jane]

So you are of the same opinion Jane,it was quite a quiet massacre without many screams of pain.I just cant agree with this,sorry!

On a scale of one to ten, there's vast difference between total silence and loud screams. Like much else, I suspect the truth to lay somewhere in the middle, ie between four and six?

[Adam]

It's very unlikely Sheila heard anything. She was asleep behind thick doors & walls. Very docile from the Haloperiodal.

The rifle was slient.   

Daniel, Nicholas & June were killed/negated while they slept. So made no noise.

Nevill ran straight downstairs.

[guest29835]

Maybe Pams statement says that June had told her that Sheila had been on holiday to Haiti and hed got mixed up in voodoo,and after she had returned home,had turned into a zombie.

Now I think about it, that is what it says, yes.  I'd clean forgotten.  I'm surprised the defence didn't make more of this.

I have heard - keep this to yourself - that Rivlin was a zombie, possibly Munday too, definitely Drake and Arlidge, and whole thing was a Zombie-Freemason Conspiracy.

[Adam]

It's very unlikely Sheila heard anything. She was asleep behind thick doors & walls. Very docile from the Haloperiodal.

The rifle was slient.   

Daniel, Nicholas & June were killed/negated while they slept. So made no noise.

Nevill ran straight downstairs.

If Sheila did wake, Bamber would have to deal with the situation.

He was ready.

[snow66!]

If Sheila did wake, Bamber would have to deal with the situation.

He was ready.

Well maybe Adam.But there are things to consider.ie.what if Sheila woke while the kitchen fight took place? There was two sets of stairs,she just might have managed to sneak down stairs and flee the house.JB must have known this was a distinct possibility if he left her till last.You have to addmit Adam.a massacre involving this ammount of victims was never going to be straight forward.No matter how much you would like to convince yourself and others,a simple convincing scenario for neither JB or Sheila exists.

[snow66!]

Now I think about it, that is what it says, yes.  I'd clean forgotten.  I'm surprised the defence didn't make more of this.

I have heard - keep this to yourself - that Rivlin was a zombie, possibly Munday too, definitely Drake and Arlidge, and whole thing was a Zombie-Freemason Conspiracy.

Well,theres always a simple explanation Gascoigne.

[Adam]

Well maybe Adam.But there are things to consider.ie.what if Sheila woke while the kitchen fight took place? There was two sets of stairs,she just might have managed to sneak down stairs and flee the house.JB must have known this was a distinct possibility if he left her till last.You have to addmit Adam.a massacre involving this ammount of victims was never going to be straight forward.No matter how much you would like to convince yourself and others,a simple convincing scenario for neither JB or Sheila exists.

Sheila flea & leave her children?