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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2022, 07:15:PM »

Perhaps it can be looked at thus; Policeman A, thinks the body he sees, having long flowing hair, is female. He radios in to HQ with this information. Policeman B, thinks the body he sees is male. He radios in the information to HQ. Seeking to condense what must have been information coming at them from everywhere, HQ helpfully records it as two bodies, male and female. End of the mystery created by those who want to complicate things.
No Jane,the document clearly reads-two bodies in kitchen UPON ENTRY-not only that -three bodies upstairs-how could this have come about if Sheilas body was upstairs all along since 3.30.Very suspicious,as is the conversation with someone inside the farm.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #61 on: March 19, 2022, 07:22:PM »
And you cant say it was because they only found some of the bodies upstairs and feported this.The maximum they could have found in one room was two,then another two.the only way three bodies makes sense is the twins and June being found.No other equation is possible for three bodies upstairs.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #62 on: March 19, 2022, 07:29:PM »
And you cant say it was because they only found some of the bodies upstairs and feported this.The maximum they could have found in one room was two,then another two.the only way three bodies makes sense is the twins and June being found.No other equation is possible for three bodies upstairs.
It is if the radio operator did a simple sum in his or her head, having been fed the information that there were five occupants of the charnel house White House Farm had become that August morning.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #63 on: March 19, 2022, 07:31:PM »
It is if the radio operator did a simple sum in his or her head, having been fed the information that there were five occupants of the charnel house White House Farm had become that August morning.
I am sorry Steve,but i just dont understand what you have just said!

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #64 on: March 19, 2022, 08:02:PM »
No Jane,the document clearly reads-two bodies in kitchen UPON ENTRY-not only that -three bodies upstairs-how could this have come about if Sheilas body was upstairs all along since 3.30.Very suspicious,as is the conversation with someone inside the farm.


 I'm unaware of the document to which you refer, perhaps you can provide the information.

Re said conversation. I think you should read it again. It says "...in conversation with a person from inside the farm", and then says ".... challenges to persons inside the house, met with no response". It differentiates between person and persons, and farm and house. The person with whom they're conversing is JB. Nobody from in the house responded to challenge. Don't worry about your mistake posters have been making the same for years.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #65 on: March 19, 2022, 08:06:PM »
I am sorry Steve,but i just dont understand what you have just said!
Well someone was cognizant of there being five occupants of White House Farm, information provided courtesy of Jeremy Bamber. When it's reported erroneously that two people have been found dead downstairs some bright spark has done the mental arithmetic and Bob's your uncle.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #66 on: March 19, 2022, 08:26:PM »

 I'm unaware of the document to which you refer, perhaps you can provide the information.

Re said conversation. I think you should read it again. It says "...in conversation with a person from inside the farm", and then says ".... challenges to persons inside the house, met with no response". It differentiates between person and persons, and farm and house. The person with whom they're conversing is JB. Nobody from in the house responded to challenge. Don't worry about your mistake posters have been making the same for years.
Lets cover the three bodies first Jane ,then i will give you my take on the conversation.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2022, 08:28:PM »
Well someone was cognizant of there being five occupants of White House Farm, information provided courtesy of Jeremy Bamber. When it's reported erroneously that two people have been found dead downstairs some bright spark has done the mental arithmetic and Bob's your uncle.
But the document says a further three bodies found upstairs Steve,how do you explain this ?

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2022, 08:30:PM »
But the document says a further three bodies found upstairs Steve,how do you explain this ?
I've just told you. There are people reporting via a two-way communication system who are not present at the scene, but did an erroneous arithmetical calculation in their head.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2022, 08:36:PM »
I've just told you. There are people reporting via a two-way communication system who are not present at the scene, but did an erroneous arithmetical calculation in their head.
Ok, i will put it another way Steve,one body has been found down stairs,fair enough.Why did the TFG then report a FURTHER three bodies upstairs instead of four?

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2022, 08:38:PM »
Ok, i will put it another way Steve,one body has been found down stairs,fair enough.Why did the TFG then report a FURTHER three bodies upstairs instead of four?


Two boys in one bedroom. June visible from the doorway of another. Sheila not visible from there.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #71 on: March 19, 2022, 08:44:PM »

Two boys in one bedroom. June visible from the doorway of another. Sheila not visible from there.

Yes the police would have shortly afterwards said '4 bodies'.

The CT probably just took the 3 bodies section of a radio log & made a big fuss.
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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #72 on: March 19, 2022, 08:48:PM »

Two boys in one bedroom. June visible from the doorway of another. Sheila not visible from there.
Gotcha Jane,June and Sheila were BOTH found before the twins.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #73 on: March 19, 2022, 08:56:PM »
Gotcha Jane,June and Sheila were BOTH found before the twins.


I guess they were dyscalculia, too.

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Re: Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?
« Reply #74 on: March 19, 2022, 09:04:PM »

I guess they were dyscalculia, too.
You see,some things cant be easily sxplained Jane.And THAT is why i STILL have reasonable doubt!