Was Sheila's condition at WHF irrelevant to Bamber?

[Adam]

He only had a short window of opportunity while the 5 people were at WHF. The next time may be months or years away.

He was planning to kill 5 people, 3 of them adults & one of them a large male.

The only difference with Sheila was he had to move her a few feet & kill her with one bullet. He would have been confident of doing this regardless of Sheila's condition.

However it was worth keeping close tabs on Sheila. Her medication will make her docile & uncordinated some of the time.

He certainly thought the time was right at supper & rang Julie when arriving home. Sheila being docile that night is supported by PB's WS.

If Sheila did not show any signs of being docile during her stay, in my view Bamber would have waited until a couple of days before she was due back in London & still gone ahead.

[Adam]

Does anyone know how long Sheila was due to stay at WHF?

As well as how many days into her stay she was when the massacre was committed?

[Adam]

An interesting thing here is Julie said Bamber had been on his tractor thinking about it all day.

This suggests he planned to go ahead regardless of Sheila's condition that night. Although he had seen her outside earlier in the day.

Either Sheila was docile & un cordinated 100% of the time, or Bamber was confident & determined enough to go ahead regardless of what state she was in. 

He still had to attend WHF a few hours before the massacre. To confirm everything was in place. Him & PB confirming Sheila was non responsive to conversation attempts that night.

[Jane]

Does anyone know how long Sheila was due to stay at WHF?

As well as how many days into her stay she was when the massacre was committed?

Having arrived Sunday afternoon, they were due to leave on the Thursday as the boys were being taken to Norway, on the Friday, to holiday with Colin's sister. There's no evidence that Sheila was planning to stay on at WHF after the boys had left. As is constantly being pointed out, her next injection was due.

[Adam]

Having arrived Sunday afternoon, they were due to leave on the Thursday as the boys were being taken to Norway, on the Friday, to holiday with Colin's sister. There's no evidence that Sheila was planning to stay on at WHF after the boys had left. As is constantly being pointed out, her next injection was due.

So he only had 4 evenings.

The massacre was committed on the third night?

So really, Sheila's condition was not too much of an issue for him. She wasn't staying for 3 weeks so he couldn't wait for a perfect moment.

Going by the evidence, it seems he got lucky & Sheila was very docile that night.

[Adam]

So he only had 4 evenings.

The massacre was committed on the third night?

So really, Sheila's condition was not too much of an issue for him. She wasn't staying for 3 weeks so he couldn't wait for a perfect moment.

Going by the evidence, it seems he got lucky & Sheila was very docile that night.

Or maybe docile all the time.

Whether docile or not, Bamber felt confident. The rewards were high.

[Adam]

Sheila's condition was irrelevant to Bamber deciding to attempt the massacre.

He only had 4 evenings to make his move & the rewards were high.

The liklihood that Sheila was docile & put up no resistance was a welcome bonus for him. Espescially after Nevill rocked the boat.

[lookout]

Until JB was able to visit the prison library, he didn't have a clue about Sheila's condition, so read up about it until he understood how complex it was and its further connotations it can have.
Sheila had given the impression that she'd been sleepy, doped-up, etc etc. but this was clearly a sign of oncoming psychosis and not as everyone says/thinks, tiredness.

[Steve_uk]

Does anyone know how long Sheila was due to stay at WHF?

As well as how many days into her stay she was when the massacre was committed?

She had gone to Rags nightclub on the Friday evening.There had been a party at Colin's on Saturday and she set off with Nicholas, Daniel and her ex-husband on the Sunday. They were due to stay a week, whereupon Colin and the twins were to spend a week in Norway with Colin's sister.

[snow66!]

She had gone to Rags nightclub on the Friday evening.There had been a party at Colin's on Saturday and she set off with Nicholas, Daniel and her ex-husband on the Sunday. They were due to stay a week, whereupon Colin and the twins were to spend a week in Norway with Colin's sister.

Party,party,party,and oh how drowsy and sedated.What a brave girl to attend!

[Adam]

She had gone to Rags nightclub on the Friday evening.There had been a party at Colin's on Saturday and she set off with Nicholas, Daniel and her ex-husband on the Sunday. They were due to stay a week, whereupon Colin and the twins were to spend a week in Norway with Colin's sister.

A short time period.

Sheila being fully alert would not deter him. The rewards were high.

However Sheila being in a very docile unresponsive period of her medication, would make him even more enthusiastic.

The evidence is Sheila was very docile on the night.

[Steve_uk]

Party,party,party,and oh how drowsy and sedated.What a brave girl to attend!

She put on appearances, a trait she had learned from her mother, June.

[snow66!]

She put on appearances, a trait she had learned from her mother, June.

Pity she couldnt put on an appearance the night of the murders,and try and save herself Steve!

[Adam]

Pity she couldnt put on an appearance the night of the murders,and try and save herself Steve!

Both supporters & guilters will agree Sheila's condition would not deter Bamber from attempting the massacre. 

He only had a short window of opportunity & the rewards were huge.

He was going to attempt to kill a 6.4 male, so Sheila being fully alert was not going to deter him.

On the flip side, Sheila being very docile beforehand would make him more confident & enthusiastic.

 

[Adam]

Both supporters & guilters will agree Sheila's condition would not deter Bamber.

He only had a short window of opportunity & the rewards were huge.

He was going to attempt to kill a 6.4 male, so Sheila being fully alert was not going to deter him.

On the flip side, Sheila being very docile beforehand would make him more confident & enthusiastic.

The WS's & evidence is that this was the case.