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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2022, 01:17:PM »
Well I have said she was Haloperiodal. Sedative effects being just one of many side effects.





What little there was left would have been overshadowed by the cannabis so she might as well have had none in her system. Cannabis itself can bring about a psychotic attack, because for Sheila to have traces of it still in her system 3 ? days later she must have smoked it continually at her parties as usually after 72 hours there's no trace of it.

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2022, 01:20:PM »
Well I have said she was Haloperiodal. Sedative effects being just one of many side effects.

Yes we all know she was on Haloperiodol, her dose had recently been halved and she was due another dose. So you cannot say she was sedated because this is a side effect of Haloperiodol.

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2022, 01:29:PM »
A reduction in any meds. brings about problems and in many cases the condition that's being treated returns with a vengeance. It stands to reason. Withdrawal symptoms has its own problems too, be it medication, tobacco or alcohol.


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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2022, 01:29:PM »
Yes we all know she was on Haloperiodol, her dose had recently been halved and she was due another dose. So you cannot say she was sedated because this is a side effect of Haloperiodol.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11172.0.html

It's been confirmed today that Sheila's condition a few hours beforehand would not deter Bamber from attempting the massacre.

The plan was made weeks or months ago.  He only had a 4 night window. The reward was huge. 

The crime scene evidence & Bamber's/PB's WS's confirm Sheila was very docile from the Haloperiodal. Which was a bonus for him.
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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2022, 01:32:PM »
Docile ? Famed for ranting and raving, throwing pots and pans about and shoving her hand through plate glass  ::)

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2022, 01:36:PM »
Docile ? Famed for ranting and raving, throwing pots and pans about and shoving her hand through plate glass  ::)

Do elaborate & provide sources.

Pots & pans to a 5X massacre. Sheila would be very docile & uncordinated from the Haloperidal.
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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2022, 02:43:PM »
Do elaborate & provide sources.

Pots & pans to a 5X massacre. Sheila would be very docile & uncordinated from the Haloperidal.




Haven't you read Colin's book ? Or read anything other than Wilkes ?

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2022, 02:45:PM »
Sheila was like a coiled spring while she was at WHF.

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2022, 02:49:PM »
Let's just call it 2 adults as opposed to 5 people, one sick adult and the other tired/ worn out after a full day in the fields. An easy target for a young fit person in a psychotic state, delusional and hallucinating.

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2022, 02:50:PM »
Docile ? Famed for ranting and raving, throwing pots and pans about and shoving her hand through plate glass  ::)
But this was during the marriage to Colin, when she was taking no anti-psychotic medication. As for the incident witnessed by her drug dealer Freddie Emani, she was banging her fists against the wall, never against a person and never against her children.

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2022, 02:53:PM »
Let's just call it 2 adults as opposed to 5 people, one sick adult and the other tired/ worn out after a full day in the fields. An easy target for a young fit person in a psychotic state, delusional and hallucinating.
Even if she was young and fit (negated by several witnesses those last days) the psychosis involves confusion, certainly not a fit state to pinpoint 25 bullets reloading twice uninterrupted.

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2022, 03:01:PM »
It's you Adam who has posted many times Sheila was sedated, despite there being nothing in the toxicology reports to say she was.


She was found to have had an adequate and theraputic level of Haloperidol, a drug known to have sedative effects, in her system, after death, which, had she lived, would have been efficacious until her next dose.

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2022, 03:09:PM »
Sheila was only days away from her next injection so in effect what she had left would be of no use in containing/ controlling her illness as in fact because the dose had been lowered anyway the less it was the more dangerous in the sense that it was a large drop from what she had been originally signed up for.

Those who are given medication for heart problems who see a drop in their dosage more often than not suffer a heart attack, so why would anyone reduce the dosage of a vital medication ?

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2022, 03:34:PM »
Sheila was only days away from her next injection so in effect what she had left would be of no use in containing/ controlling her illness as in fact because the dose had been lowered anyway the less it was the more dangerous in the sense that it was a large drop from what she had been originally signed up for.

Those who are given medication for heart problems who see a drop in their dosage more often than not suffer a heart attack, so why would anyone reduce the dosage of a vital medication ?


At death she was found to have in her system, an adequate and theraputic amount of Haloperidol, low to moderate doses of which have been found to be adequate for most severely psychotic patients, which would have been efficacious until her next dose, which I believe to have been due sometime the following week.

Regarding heart meds, my adored M. often had his changed according to what his doctors felt was necessary. The balance is all important. A theraputic dose, not more than, is all that's necessary.

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Re: Sheila's toxicology report:
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2022, 04:30:PM »
Even if she was young and fit (negated by several witnesses those last days) the psychosis involves confusion, certainly not a fit state to pinpoint 25 bullets reloading twice uninterrupted.





Steve, the shots were frenzied or there'd have been no point in using the amount of bullets if one had been in the know.