Sheilas Two Shots

[snow66!]

If originally going for an 11 shot massacre, Sheila would have had to have received one shot.

However once things escalated, he felt 2 shots was not a major problem.

Either way, he had investigated the best location. Both shots would have caused instant or protracted death.

You say instant or protracted death Adam,yet the experts say NON FATAL.

[Roch]

But whos Roch. Bubo,Bambergate,Mike?

Not sure Snow - but on another note this Sunday will be the first anniversary of the latest CCRC submissions. I hope we see a substantial statement from the legal team / CT, rather than yet another podcast.

[snow66!]

Instant death=bullet to the brain. Non instant death=anywhere in the neck.

[snow66!]

Not sure Snow - but on another note this Sunday will be the first anniversary of the latest CCRC submissions. I hope we see a substantial statement from the legal team / CT, rather than yet another podcast.

Yes that would be good Roch,and it may put an end to any need for further arguing here.

[Roch]

Yes that would be good Roch,and it may put an end to any need for further arguing here.

Well I was thinking more of a kind of update. Not spilling all the beans per se.

[Adam]

You say instant or protracted death Adam,yet the experts say NON FATAL.

Snow66! with all due respect, this is nonsense.

[Adam]

Both shots by Bamber were very well placed -

'The higher of the two wounds would have killed her almost instantaneously.

The lower of the two would have been a fatal injury but not one where death would have occurred immediately'.

[Adam]

With all due respect Adam ,this is nonsense.Even if you completely sever the jugular vain,it takes a minute to bleed to death.About the only other way for instant death to occur would be to put a bullet in the brain stem.But to manage to aim and fire a shot into it from the front of the throat would have been a hundred to one.Now you are changing your mind and saying JB planned to shoot two shots in rapid succession.But there was a vast difference in the angle of the two shots,so the rifle was moved considerably between them.No to be quite honest nothing you have said rings true Adam,and i think you know it.

Read my post properly.

After unexpectedly having to shoot Nevill 8 times & everyone else 15 times, he may have decided shooting Sheila twice would not be an issue. So shot her twice in quick succession.

Pre massacre, if going for an 11 shot massacre, he could only shoot Sheila once.

[Adam]

Strictly speaking, an 11 shot massacre does not stop Sheila being shot twice, if so chosen.

Two shots would just mean there were less bullets available to kill the other 4 people. 

However if the original plan was an 11 shot massacre, the plan would have been one shot for Sheila.

[snow66!]

Both shots by Bamber were very well placed -

'The higher of the two wounds would have killed her almost instantaneously.

The lower of the two would have been a fatal injury but not one where death would have occurred immediately'.

But why didnt he put the first bullet in the brain Adam,that would have been job done,end of story.And what pray was he aiming at with the other shot,that would have killed her.

[snow66!]

Read my post properly.

After unexpectedly having to shoot Nevill 8 times & everyone else 15 times, he may have decided shooting Sheila twice would not be an issue. So shot her twice in quick succession.

Pre massacre, if going for an 11 shot massacre, he could only shoot Sheila once.

Why wouldnt shooting Sheila twice be an issue,it was supposed to look like suicide.

[snow66!]

Strictly speaking, an 11 shot massacre does not stop Sheila being shot twice, if so chosen.

Two shots would just mean there were less bullets available to kill the other 4 people. 

However if the original plan was an 11 shot massacre, the plan would have been one shot for Sheila.

So why not put that ONE shot up in  to her brain Adam.

[snow66!]

Snow66! with all due respect, this is nonsense.

No it isnt Adam ,you said BOTH shots would have caused instant death.

[Jane]

No it isnt Adam ,you said BOTH shots would have caused instant death.

ONE of the two shots would have caused instant death -there is now allegedly some debate about which shot that was- if it had been the first shot, she'd have already been dead so this discussion is futile. However, one of the two shots was said to have been "mortal" meaning she would have died from it eventually -no one has yet ventured a guess as to how long that may have been- as opposed to immediately. But if she was already dead, it's academic.

[snow66!]

Well I was thinking more of a kind of update. Not spilling all the beans per se.

Yes it would be nice to get an update even Roch.