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[Adam]

This is true, but Jeremy Bamber had to get to the telephone in the kitchen first without Nevill waking up from his slumber in the lounge or Crispy barking and waking up one of several individuals in the household. Jeremy hid the fawn-coloured telephone because it was anomalous to his plan, which was to deprive the Bambers of a lifeline in the master bedroom. June could easily have taken it had it been in full view and received Pamela's call in bed, which would have been more comfortable than standing over the blue and white chequered worktop at 61 years of age and at such a late hour.

Slumber in the lounge?

[Steve_uk]

Slumber in the lounge?

Adam we just don't know the location of Nevill on the evening of 6th August 1985 into the early hours of the 7th. His habit was to take his dog for a walk following the day's work, to shower downstairs and take a cigarette and gin and tonic in the lounge. He may well have been in the master bedroom with his wife at the time of the shootings, but given that it was the busiest time of the year workwise he may well have dozed off on the settee downstairs.

[snow66!]

This is true, but Jeremy Bamber had to get to the telephone in the kitchen first without Nevill waking up from his slumber in the lounge or Crispy barking and waking up one of several individuals in the household. Jeremy hid the fawn-coloured telephone because it was anomalous to his plan, which was to deprive the Bambers of a lifeline in the master bedroom. June could easily have taken it had it been in full view and received Pamela's call in bed, which would have been more comfortable than standing over the blue and white chequered worktop at 61 years of age and at such a late hour.

Good evening Steve.When did JB hide the phone amongst the mags,i am getting baffled.

[Steve_uk]

Good evening Steve.When did JB hide the phone amongst the mags,i am getting baffled.

Well he would hide it shortly before the murders, in order to limit access to those within the Farm. Jean Boutell states she discovered the fawn-coloured telephone on 23rd August, but cannot be sure of the exact date.

[snow66!]

Well he would hide it shortly before the murders, in order to limit access to those within the Farm. Jean Boutell states she discovered the fawn-coloured telephone on 23rd August, but cannot be sure of the exact date.

But when Steve,before he went home to his cottage or when he broke in through the night?

[Adam]

Adam we just don't know the location of Nevill on the evening of 6th August 1985 into the early hours of the 7th. His habit was to take his dog for a walk following the day's work, to shower downstairs and take a cigarette and gin and tonic in the lounge. He may well have been in the master bedroom with his wife at the time of the shootings, but given that it was the busiest time of the year workwise he may well have dozed off on the settee downstairs.

The evidence is he was next to June. In bed. It was 2am.

Nevill was shot 4 times in the bedroom. Twice in the face from inches away. Before he fled downstairs & died.

[Adam]

Adam we just don't know the location of Nevill on the evening of 6th August 1985 into the early hours of the 7th. His habit was to take his dog for a walk following the day's work, to shower downstairs and take a cigarette and gin and tonic in the lounge. He may well have been in the master bedroom with his wife at the time of the shootings, but given that it was the busiest time of the year workwise he may well have dozed off on the settee downstairs.

How did Nevill end up  upstairs with Bamber. If he started off downstairs?

Getting himself shot 4 times. Twice in the face from inches away. Without mounting a counter attack?

You are as bad as QC.

[Adam]

Good evening Steve.When did JB hide the phone amongst the mags,i am getting baffled.

You can always make your own mind up.

In my view Bamber brought the bedroom phone downstairs as part of the frame. Then plugged it in. The kitchen phone was put underneath magazines.

All done after the massacre before he cycled home.

[snow66!]

You can always make your own mind up.

In my view Bamber brought the bedroom phone downstairs as part of the frame. Then plugged it in. The kitchen phone was put underneath magazines.

All done after the massacre before he cycled home.

That does not answer the question Adam.When was the phone hidden among the magazines?

[Adam]

That does not answer the question Adam.When was the phone hidden among the magazines?

Were you not able to digest my last post?

The kitchen phone would be put under magazines by Bamber before he cycled home.

[Adam]

That does not answer the question Adam.When was the phone hidden among the magazines?

The kitchen phone is not hidden.

Just not left in plain site. Bamber wanted the bedroom phone he left off the hook to be the focal point.

[snow66!]

Were you not able to digest my last post?

The kitchen phone would be put under magazines by Bamber before he cycled home.

Ok, i will put it another way,when did JB unplug the kitchen phone to disable the bedroom one?

[Adam]

Ok, i will put it another way,when did JB unplug the kitchen phone to disable the bedroom one?

If he planned to do that. It would be upon entrance. Prior to going upstairs.

[David1819]

Good evening Steve.When did JB hide the phone amongst the mags,i am getting baffled.

I cannot see a phone under the magazines in the crime scene photos. It's another oddity that seems to have shown up after Ann Eaton had access to the house. It wouldn't surprise me if that phone was actually in the upstairs office hence some negatives of the office photos have been destroyed.

[snow66!]

If he planned to do that. It would be upon entrance. Prior to going upstairs.

Ok,i can understand taking the kitchen phone off thehook to disable the bedroom phone,i can even understand hiding the kitchen phone so that no one can escape down stairs and plug it back in and use it again.But heres the thing,once the massacre has taken place why dosen't JB simply put the kitchen phone back in place,plug it in,and take it off the hook.Job done.So please explain why JB decided that he had to leave the kitchen phone hidden in magazines and take the bedroom pnone down to the kitchen? Am i simply missing something here? I could understand if the kitchen phone wasnt working,then he would have no choice,but what is your logical reason for taking the bedroom phone down to the kitchen Adam?