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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #255 on: February 24, 2022, 04:21:PM »
Could it be where they have lifted her and placed her on top of the body bag, prior to removal?
Hi Roch.In Peter Woodcocks statement,he says plastic bags were placed over Sheilas head and hands,then she was wrapped in a plastic sheet before being moved.This was after he had removed the rifle and made it safe.

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #256 on: February 24, 2022, 05:39:PM »
Hi Roch.In Peter Woodcocks statement,he says plastic bags were placed over Sheilas head and hands,then she was wrapped in a plastic sheet before being moved.This was after he had removed the rifle and made it safe.

Thanks for that Snow.

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« Reply #257 on: February 24, 2022, 07:25:PM »
I believe it to be SC based on the nose shape and what appear to be two gunshot wounds. I am curios as to what she is lying on. It has a dark background and we only have pictures of her with a light coloured background. It could be a body bag and show her condition on arrival at the mortuary. It could also be some form of blanket. Other posters may have other views.

I believe you are right. From a certain angle, her nose does look angular. Try zooming in to the nostrils area in the image below



Looks like SC to me, but the blood patterns don't make sense? Looks very suspicious?

Is that a earring on the left side?

If it is, then the corresponding earring on the right is missing.

I think it is not SC. Nose too big and pointed, nostrils too large.  Also, at the time, Sheila had a chubbier face. The face in the image seems quite a bit less fleshy.
Eyebrow too arched. SC had smoothly rounded eyebrows. The ones in the photo seem more angled.
Might be an image from a TV programme?

If I am correct about the nostrils, how would a documentary maker get an actress with the same nostrils?  I do not think they would go to these lengths regarding gore. If the images in question are from the scene, it might explain why the raid team protested about the position of her head? Could it be that she was cleaned up as part of the restaging?
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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #258 on: February 24, 2022, 07:36:PM »
Some comparisons..
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« Reply #259 on: February 24, 2022, 08:15:PM »
Can we have a photo comparison without all the blood ?

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« Reply #260 on: February 24, 2022, 09:42:PM »

If I am correct about the nostrils, how would a documentary maker get an actress with the same nostrils?  I do not think they would go to these lengths regarding gore. If the images in question are from the scene, it might explain why the raid team protested about the position of her head? Could it be that she was cleaned up as part of the restaging?

I am very squeamish but still think the image is Sheila? but if it is what is it telling us?

Was she rolled onto her right side causing the stain on the carpet needing the bible to cover it? plus staining her face?

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« Reply #261 on: February 24, 2022, 09:51:PM »
I am very squeamish but still think the image is Sheila? but if it is what is it telling us?

Was she rolled onto her right side causing the stain on the carpet needing the bible to cover it? plus staining her face?

In that scenario, they must have cleaned up Sheila prior to crime scene photography, leaving only the original bloodstreams from the wounds. The stream from the lower wound doesn't look right in her crime scene images, it's almost as if it's too thin for the size of the wound. Could it have been wiped away?
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« Reply #262 on: February 24, 2022, 10:19:PM »
In that scenario, they must have cleaned up Sheila prior to crime scene photography, leaving only the original bloodstreams from the wounds. The stream from the lower wound doesn't look right in her crime scene images, it's almost as if it's too thin for the size of the wound. Could it have been wiped away?

I agree the wounds don't look right? The lower wound to Sheila especially looks strange? Though PV seemed satisfied all was above board.

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« Reply #263 on: February 24, 2022, 10:38:PM »
I agree the wounds don't look right? The lower wound to Sheila especially looks strange? Though PV seemed satisfied all was above board.

Pairing the term 'all above board' with Peter Vanezis seems a bit ironic. 

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« Reply #264 on: February 25, 2022, 09:56:AM »
Pairing the term 'all above board' with Peter Vanezis seems a bit ironic.

I must admit I was not to convinced myself!

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« Reply #265 on: February 25, 2022, 02:51:PM »
This is a photo of Sheila. However its not at the crime scene since the bedside cabinet is not behind her.

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« Reply #266 on: February 25, 2022, 04:05:PM »
This is a photo of Sheila. However its not at the crime scene since the bedside cabinet is not behind her.

Just to clarify, are you ruling out that it's the cabinet purely based on her head being in a different position to the thing behind her, i.e. in comparison to the normal crime scene images? 

Or

Are you implying that the thing behind her is not the cabinet, based on some other analysis of it?
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« Reply #267 on: February 25, 2022, 04:17:PM »
Just to clarify, are you ruling out that it's the cabinet purely based on her head being in a different position to the thing behind her, i.e. in comparison to the normal crime scene images? 

Or

Are you implying that the thing behind her is not the cabinet, based on some other analysis of it?


From memory, I believe the bedside cabinets to have been the once popular Queen Anne style. These were usually pale cream in colour, with gold embossed patination. They stood atop bowed and curved legs, and were arched. It's practically impossible to say, with confidence, what it is, in the picture, she's almost laying against, but I'll hazard a guess that it isn't a Queen Anne styled bedside cabinet.

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« Reply #268 on: February 25, 2022, 04:36:PM »

From memory, I believe the bedside cabinets to have been the once popular Queen Anne style. These were usually pale cream in colour, with gold embossed patination. They stood atop bowed and curved legs, and were arched. It's practically impossible to say, with confidence, what it is, in the picture, she's almost laying against, but I'll hazard a guess that it isn't a Queen Anne styled bedside cabinet.

Are you Arthur Negus in disguise?  I haven't ruled out the cabinet just yet.

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #269 on: February 25, 2022, 06:16:PM »
Just to clarify, are you ruling out that it's the cabinet purely based on her head being in a different position to the thing behind her, i.e. in comparison to the normal crime scene images? 

Or

Are you implying that the thing behind her is not the cabinet, based on some other analysis of it?

Don't get what you are saying.