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Offline Roch

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The drop / pendant earring...
« on: February 06, 2022, 09:40:PM »
I should have just posted this on the other thread.  It can be seen as a small oval grey shape surrounded by blood, within the folds of the nightdress. This is near the shoulder / armpit area and below the frill area. Visible in images MS6; MS10; MS11; MS12; MS29; MS34. Page 2 of the photos in Archive and Library.
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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2022, 06:38:AM »
Sheila looks so small in the picture of her in the deceased position. If I didn't know she was 27, I would have guessed she was over 10 years younger.

Going by what Bamber & Pamela Boutflour said, Sheila would have barely had the energy to walk upstairs & change into her nightdress.
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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2022, 08:07:AM »
I should have just posted this on the other thread.  It can be seen as a small oval grey shape surrounded by blood, within the folds of the nightdress. This is near the shoulder / armpit area and below the frill area. Visible in images MS6; MS10; MS11; MS12; MS29; MS34. Page 2 of the photos in Archive and Library.

Thank-you for that, Roch. However, having stared until my eyes hurt, I failed to see anything resembling a pendent of any type. I use that expression because I noticed that she was wearing a neck chain and wondered if the pendent, you say is there, was part of the chain?

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2022, 12:12:PM »
Thank-you for that, Roch. However, having stared until my eyes hurt, I failed to see anything resembling a pendent of any type. I use that expression because I noticed that she was wearing a neck chain and wondered if the pendent, you say is there, was part of the chain?

On the images above, the item looks like a small oval grey patch, surrounded by blood. This is because of the poor definition of the photos. It is beneath the frill line, close to the shoulder / armpit area. You will not see a pendant earring because of the definition. You will see the same oval patch in all of the images listed above. If you look at the image in the article that Cambridge posted up, you can work out where to look for the oval grey patch on the images listed above.

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2022, 03:09:PM »
There appears to be something there in the CS images you mention Roch and the pixelated image in the Metro actually looks clearer if you stand back and look at it or shrink the image to a thumbnail.

I think this could well be an earring but it's hard to say that this is anything more than yet another curiosity.

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2022, 03:39:PM »
There appears to be something there in the CS images you mention Roch and the pixelated image in the Metro actually looks clearer if you stand back and look at it or shrink the image to a thumbnail.

I think this could well be an earring but it's hard to say that this is anything more than yet another curiosity.


AD, much as I'd like to say that you've made clear whatever the object is, IF it's such. Sadly, all I can say is that, thanks to your arrow, I now know where to look. I'm not certain how it might be claimed, definitively, to be anything at all, as enlargement has revealed other 'patches' which seem similar. Perhaps it's another of those anomalies referred to as being "a trick of the light"?

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2022, 03:50:PM »

AD, much as I'd like to say that you've made clear whatever the object is, IF it's such. Sadly, all I can say is that, thanks to your arrow, I now know where to look. I'm not certain how it might be claimed, definitively, to be anything at all, as enlargement has revealed other 'patches' which seem similar. Perhaps it's another of those anomalies referred to as being "a trick of the light"?

I have spent a good 10 minutes examining the images in the library and all I can see is an indistinct shape.

This is a shrunken version of the Metro image. Unfortunately, I no longer have photoshop so this is the best I could do.

Edit to say, Bah! - it appears the same size now it's uploaded! Standing back or squinting helps.




« Last Edit: February 07, 2022, 03:52:PM by Armchair Detective »
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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2022, 04:09:PM »
Poor Sheila.

Physically very weak & light. Bare footed, docile, un cordinated, half asleep, in the dark, under the 'sedative effects' of Haloperiodal, confused, unaware of what had happened, scared & trusting her brother.

Easy for Bamber. Whether she had woken or not.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2022, 04:17:PM by Adam »
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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2022, 04:25:PM »
I have spent a good 10 minutes examining the images in the library and all I can see is an indistinct shape.

This is a shrunken version of the Metro image. Unfortunately, I no longer have photoshop so this is the best I could do.

Edit to say, Bah! - it appears the same size now it's uploaded! Standing back or squinting helps.


Oh dear! It takes me back to the images we were asked to look at in psychology classes. According to what we saw, it was indicative of our personality type. It said things about us that often were best not revealed!!! :o

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2022, 04:34:PM »

AD, much as I'd like to say that you've made clear whatever the object is, IF it's such. Sadly, all I can say is that, thanks to your arrow, I now know where to look. I'm not certain how it might be claimed, definitively, to be anything at all, as enlargement has revealed other 'patches' which seem similar. Perhaps it's another of those anomalies referred to as being "a trick of the light"?

At least you are showing interest Jane, along with Armchair.  The following images may assist.  There is no reason why the folds in Sheila's nightdress would appear iridescent in one very limited and specific area. Therefore, I think we can safely rule out 'trick of the light II'.  It may be helpful to hold your laptop at arms length when viewing the images.

SC's nightdress is uniform in colour, as is her bloodstaining and skin tone.  The object in question reflects light.  It is likely to have been chrome-like in appearance, in my opinion.

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2022, 04:56:PM »
At least you are showing interest Jane, along with Armchair.  The following images may assist.  There is no reason why the folds in Sheila's nightdress would appear iridescent in one very limited and specific area. Therefore, I think we can safely rule out 'trick of the light II'.  It may be helpful to hold your laptop at arms length when viewing the images.

SC's nightdress is uniform in colour, as is her bloodstaining and skin tone.  The object in question reflects light.  It is likely to have been chrome-like in appearance, in my opinion.

Those are much better images, thanks Roch.

Oddly, the area appears black on some of the library images, (MS12, MS14) yet the object appears to reflect light in others.
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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2022, 05:02:PM »
Those are much better images, thanks Roch.

Oddly, the area appears black on some of the library images, (MS12, MS14) yet the object appears to reflect light in others.

I had noticed it seemed absent in MS14.  I reasoned that it must have either been removed or was obscured / just out of shot, due to angle.

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2022, 09:27:PM »
So can you imagine that being ripped off the ear ? The type of injury it would cause ?

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2022, 09:29:PM »
I have looked at the picture in Photoshop, but cannot do much with the image. Definitely looks like a piece of jewelry with a heart shape in it.

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Re: The drop / pendant earring...
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2022, 09:36:PM »
It looks like a metal chess piece ( castle )