The Drug Supply Chain

[Davie2]

It would be useful if you could provide this information for those of us trying to fathom out what happened and if it equates to the current narrative. You seem to know a lot about the case do YOU have answers to these questions?

Honestly, from the bottom of my heart, I can't be bothered going thought it all over and over and over again. That may change if something new comes up. The current narrative is Leans narrative, it always has been, it chops and changes from time to time, but the gist of it the same, but as far as I'm concerned, she promotes innocent fraud, using sensationalism/wordplay to manipulate her audience.
For the moment, i'm generally interested in what the few on here are posting their theory's, what the knowledge is and where that knowledge comes from, is why i asked a few questions, care to answer them? I might even learn something. Ok i will answer one question, the Basically tool hire shop, closing time was 4pm in 2003, it still does today. Now that puts the cat among the pigeons eh? 

[Bubo bubo]

Honestly, from the bottom of my heart, I can't be bothered going thought it all over and over and over again. That may change if something new comes up. The current narrative is Leans narrative, it always has been, it chops and changes from time to time, but the gist of it the same, but as far as I'm concerned, she promotes innocent fraud, using sensationalism/wordplay to manipulate her audience.
For the moment, i'm generally interested in what the few on here are posting their theory's, what the knowledge is and where that knowledge comes from, is why i asked a few questions, care to answer them? I might even learn something. Ok i will answer one question, the Basically tool hire shop, closing time was 4pm in 2003, it still does today. Now that puts the cat among the pigeons eh?

There may still have been staff on site even though it was closed. If they were misusing the car park on the bike they could have been chased off.

[Roadrunner]

Just out of curiosity, I have a few questions.

What were the boys doing. Before they got to the tool hire yard? Why were they out on their moped, why were they in town?

What time was closing time? What does that really mean? Were they preparing towards closing time? Tidy up, locking up etc? What was the exact time the boys were chased out the yard?

Who seen the moped at the V unmanned? And from where?

What evidence, do we really have that Ferris was due to visit the Jones that evening?

Goodluck.

Your answers right there in reply #8 so no it doesn't put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Ferris told detectives hunting Jodi's killer that he and his cousin headed up the Roan's Dyke path at about 4.30pm.
But other witnesses told police they heard the noisy moped, which did not have a proper silencer, close to one end of the path after 5pm.

 <https://www.thefreelibrary.com/DID+YOU+MURDER+JODI%3F+QC%27s+challenge+to+her+cousin+at+High+Court.-a0125208334>

Was Findlay lying about those witness statements saying after 5pm?
The reporter that wrote the article and the witnesses that made the statements were they lying too?

To answer the rest of your questions;

Ferris left from Dickies home at 4:20 to pick up Dickie from the job centre. A 2 mile journey which gives plenty of time for them to be at the path for 5pm

The boys placed themselves there.

Your going to love this answer! Dr Lean in her book Innocents Betrayed based on the statements of JF and JoJ.

[Davie2]

Lots of waffle, i will pick up on this, though.

Your going to love this answer! Dr Lean in her book Innocents Betrayed based on the statements of JF and JoJ.

Has the book been fact-checked?

[David1819]

Lots of waffle, i will pick up on this, though.

Has the book been fact-checked?

No

[nugnug]

Lots of waffle, i will pick up on this, though.

Has the book been fact-checked?

other than various meial eperts an police officers bakin up more or less everything said in the book no.

[Fairplay1]

Somebody asked if the book has been fact checked , well let's see how many times has Dr Lean been sued? What about the BBC documentary or even the Channel 5 documentary any legal action been taken against these 2 separate production companies by anyone eg police Scotland , moped boys , the Jones family etc. In the absence of anybody coming to get either Dr Lean or the countless credible experts one can only assume their are NO lies .  Do we think the tabloid media would not support a case against the book and documentaries , come on if it was full of lies why is no credible expert writing a book to prove it.  Simply put the reason we have no dedicated author or credible expert saying its full of lies is because they simply can not refute what Dr Lean has said or it would have been done, end of ??

[nugnug]

Somebody asked if the book has been fact checked , well let's see how many times has Dr Lean been sued? What about the BBC documentary or even the Channel 5 documentary any legal action been taken against these 2 separate production companies by anyone eg police Scotland , moped boys , the Jones family etc. In the absence of anybody coming to get either Dr Lean or the countless credible experts one can only assume their are NO lies .  Do we think the tabloid media would not support a case against the book and documentaries , come on if it was full of lies why is no credible expert writing a book to prove it.  Simply put the reason we have no dedicated author or credible expert saying its full of lies is because they simply can not refute what Dr Lean has said or it would have been done, end of ??

and they have been challenged to sue enough times.

[Fairplay1]

and they have been challenged to sue enough times.

Not a single person, organisation wants to come and get her for all the lies that tells me one thing - THEY CANT ! What about a producer from bbc or any of the others why are they not chapping on Mr Dobbie door to discuss how he caught Luke , not one book, programs to support the guilty verdict NOT ONE , that tells me they won't touch it , nobody asking why , where are they all let's hear it from the prosecution side - their silence speaks volumes!

[Davie2]

Not a single person, organisation wants to come and get her for all the lies that tells me one thing - THEY CANT ! What about a producer from bbc or any of the others why are they not chapping on Mr Dobbie door to discuss how he caught Luke , not one book, programs to support the guilty verdict NOT ONE , that tells me they won't touch it , nobody asking why , where are they all let's hear it from the prosecution side - their silence speaks volumes!

Have to log in and knock this one on the head.

1. Learn how paragraphs work.
2. Tell the world exactly what the prosecution has to gain from speaking out? They got their conviction. Job done.
3. Slander, not only it is very hard to prove slander, but can also be very expensive. Trying to sue somebody, that has nothing, no assets, no money, nothing. At least, when CM was taken to court, she had a house to sell. SL has nothing, nadda, zilch. Drives around in a £400 rust bucket. You really have not thought though your rant.
4. The case is closed.

[Fairplay1]

Have to log in and knock this one on the head.

1. Learn how paragraphs work.
2. Tell the world exactly what the prosecution has to gain from speaking out? They got their conviction. Job done.
3. Slander, not only it is very hard to prove slander, but can also be very expensive. Trying to sue somebody, that has nothing, no assets, no money, nothing. At least, when CM was taken to court, she had a house to sell. SL has nothing, nadda, zilch. Drives around in a £400 rust bucket. You really have not thought though your rant.
4. The case is closed.
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It's a comment/ statement of the list of people who have nothing to say to Dr Lean, if they wanted to shut her up I'm sure they could but they can't. You are an ignorant bias and rude twat and I have no time for your pathetic views on my grammar , you should go get a life you are nothing but a moron who thinks this is finished , that's why thousands and thousands of people want this case reexamine .Oops sorry no paragraphs is that a wee trigger for you 😉

[Fairplay1]

Have to log in and knock this one on the head.

1. Learn how paragraphs work.
2. Tell the world exactly what the prosecution has to gain from speaking out? They got their conviction. Job done.
3. Slander, not only it is very hard to prove slander, but can also be very expensive. Trying to sue somebody, that has nothing, no assets, no money, nothing. At least, when CM was taken to court, she had a house to sell. SL has nothing, nadda, zilch. Drives around in a £400 rust bucket. You really have not thought though your rant.
4. The case is closed.

1. No , who are you the grammar police
2. They may have got their conviction at any cost , is this what you call Justice, 18 years on , no forensic evidence that points to Mitchel
3. You would think it's in the publics interest if the police have faith in their case they surely could sue either Dr Lean, the bbc, channel 5 and then their is all those experts including the FBI expert , nobody coming to do a documentary outlining the fantastic police work in one of the biggest trials in Scotland, the silence from the guilty experts is deafening!
4. Are you daft this case has not been close in nearly 20 years that's why it won't go away . This case will be closed when the DNA evidence is reexamined via an Independent Enquiry
5. Over 20000 people want this reexamined the only thing that is done kaput is the trolls that circle around like little vultures begging to be fed with rude and comments of no real substance , I'm done with u

[Davie2]

1. You type in riddles, it is impossible to read.
2. It was a circumstantial case, job done.
3. AGAIN, it is expensive. Hard to prove. Do your research on the subject, before you go off ranting, this age-old gotcha.
4. There will no independent inquiry, it is a ruse. The forensics has already been re-examined, but SL won't tell the cult this. It would spoil her moment.
5. Nobody worth their salt cares about a petition that can be signed a hundred times by the same person, over and over and over and over again. Ask lean where the money has gone, lol. 
6. The case is closed.
7. Cya.

[Fairplay1]

20000 signatures in 1 year and it will just keep on getting bigger.. Why don't you point out the Forensics in this case you stand by a circumstantial case like its the best type of evidence that tells me all I need to know about you.  Why would you not want that evidence to be rechecked with today's advancements to bring a conclusive answer but naw you would rather stand by a case that is so full of holes . Davie doesn't need science or any that undisputable type of evidence cause he's got Luke phoning the talking clock as his evidence , what a dope here's hoping you are never on a jury or work in law inforcement or we will all be fecked

[nugnug]

Ferris probably got laid-on a "9 bar" 9 ounces, 250gram of compressed hash.
(Laid-on, means get now pay later, probably with-in a few weeks) The cost of this varies in 2003 probably around £400/500. He would then cut his 9 bar into ounces and disrepute that to the likes of Mitchell for about £80/90 per ounce. Maybe he laid-on this or maybe he asked for the money up front, who knows. But i suspect he would have needed the money quickly to pay his dealer. Mitchell, then would have cut (he had the tools) his ounce's into scores/quarters and sold them on. Scores for £30, quarter for £15. 8 quarters in an ounce = £120, £30/40 profit for him. The more ounces he sells, the more profit, or the more smoke he gets for himself.

The person that supplied Ferris, we don't know. Probably someone local that was dealing in half kilo's, possibly full kilo's. You get around 35/36 ounces in a kilo. His dealer was probably a big shot from Edinburgh. There probably would have been several players in the Edinburgh area dealing with such quantities. The large quantities were probably driven up to Edinburgh by drug mules for Liverpool gangsters.

Now, the question I ask is what relevance does the supplier of Ferris have to do with Luke Mitchell murdering Jodi?

one of them ha to the job enter to sighn i belive.