dispososing of bloodstained clothing

[nugnug]

how did the killer ispose of there bloostained lothing.

[killingeve]

how did the killer ispose of there bloostained lothing.

The pathologist said Jodie would have lost about 3 litres of blood but he doesn't make clear how much during the actual attack.  But he did say he would have expected the perp to sustain blood transfer on his person.  The prosecution claim Luke destroyed his coat but what about his trousers and footwear?  By all accounts when he arrived at the police station his hair was somewhat dirty/greasy so on the assumption he hadn't recently washed it how did he remove any blood from his hair?  His fingernails were scraped but nothing. 

I am surprised the police were unable to produce a complete or partial footprint from someone assuming they looked.  The area was overhanging with trees and foilage so you would expect the ground to remain moist enough to leave footprints.   

Did the perp hide out in the area until the hours of darkness?

[nugnug]

well i woul gues there lothing was bloo stained her throat as cut be hard to do that without geting blood on her lths and the blood ha sprayed in all directions so i think it would of been pretty much imposble for the killer to not get blood on there clothes.

[Bubo bubo]

The pathologist said Jodie would have lost about 3 litres of blood but he doesn't make clear how much during the actual attack.  But he did say he would have expected the perp to sustain blood transfer on his person.  The prosecution claim Luke destroyed his coat but what about his trousers and footwear?  By all accounts when he arrived at the police station his hair was somewhat dirty/greasy so on the assumption he hadn't recently washed it how did he remove any blood from his hair?  His fingernails were scraped but nothing. 

I am surprised the police were unable to produce a complete or partial footprint from someone assuming they looked.  The area was overhanging with trees and foilage so you would expect the ground to remain moist enough to leave footprints.   

Did the perp hide out in the area until the hours of darkness?

I think the perp had a set of alternative clothing and a bin bag in a rucksack. Clothes are swapped with the contaminated clothes placed in the bag. Then the bag is placed in the rucksack and the perp continues his/her journey. Unless the perp took a nap I doubt they would have waited to nightfall as the risk of discovery gets greater as time passes.

The rain would contaminate the crime scene and dependant on the soil type could have washed away shallow prints. It looks like the scene had a lot of leaf litter which would lessen the chance of prints forming and the main path if it had prints would be extremely difficult to interrogate given the traffic levels along the path.

[nugnug]

funy thing is the lothes found at the sene were not the lothes jois mother descibe oul it be actully the killers lcothes ori her mum just get the esription wrong.

[Bubo bubo]

funy thing is the lothes foun at the sene were not the lothes jois mother descibe oul it be actully the killers lothes or i her mum just get the esription wrong.

JJ's mum is wrong. No killer is going to leave incriminating evidence covered in their DNA.

[nugnug]

well no killer in there right mind would do it.

[Bubo bubo]

well no killer in there right mind would do it.

But it is because they are not in their right mind (a mind we would for want of a better word describe as 'normal') and this is why they do it. Serial Killers can be extremely clever, devious, methodical and can be driven by a variety complex thoughts and behaviours..

[Steve_uk]

If Luke is the killer do you think the crime was premeditated?

[Bubo bubo]

If Luke is the killer do you think the crime was premeditated?

Rather a loaded question on a par with when did you stop beating your wife, if I may say so. And well off topic (CC please note).
The question for me does not arise because I believe him innocent. I do not believe he could kill.

[Steve_uk]

Rather a loaded question on a par with when did you stop beating your wife, if I may say so. And well off topic (CC please note).
The question for me does not arise because I believe him innocent. I do not believe he could kill.

Well yours is a value judgement. Could I rephrase the question: did the killer of Jodie Jones premeditate the crime..

[killingeve]

Well yours is a value judgement. Could I rephrase the question: did the killer of Jodie Jones premeditate the crime..

Evidently someone who carried a knife.  Given the nature of the injuries it would appear to be more than a pen knife. 

[Bubo bubo]

Well yours is a value judgement. Could I rephrase the question: did the killer of Jodie Jones premeditate the crime..

Yes I believe it to be premeditated. Either the perpetrator wanted to kill and hid while waiting for a suitable victim or Jodie was pre-selected for a reason unknown as I have previously suggested. In this latter case it might simply have arisen because the perpetrator had been following girls from school. Jodie could just have bad mouthed him/her with say 'Clear off you sad old Pedo/Lesbo' or other such jibes.
It seems that the idea of a serial killer unrelated to the area was way down the list of potential scenarios that were investigated.

[nugnug]

Yes I believe it to be premeditated. Either the perpetrator wanted to kill and hid while waiting for a suitable victim or Jodie was pre-selected for a reason unknown as I have previously suggested. In this latter case it might simply have arisen because the perpetrator had been following girls from school. Jodie could just have bad mouthed him/her with say 'Clear off you sad old Pedo/Lesbo' or other such jibes.
It seems that the idea of a serial killer unrelated to the area was way down the list of potential scenarios that were investigated.

ould it be posble that they hajust planned to assult her but things got out of hand

[Bubo bubo]

ould it be posble that they hajust planned to assult her but things got out of hand

Possible but not that likely. They could have escalated it to protect their identity but the level of mutilation was 'WAY' more than would be needed if this was the case.