Snows JB scenario

[snow66!]

I can assure you absolutely no offence was taken QC.I was delighted with your help and will probably need it again for my sheila scenario.Can i take this oppertunity to ask what you think the purpose of the marks on Nevilles back was,As you can see from my previous post i am plying for replys to my posts.

[lookout]

QC's the original walking encyclopaedia 

[Adam]

Thank you Adam,Jane and cutie for your criticism,and information on the points i got wrong.

Look forward to your Sheila scenario. Kindly answer questions afterwards.

QC & Rob didn't. Suspect they believe 'I've done a scenario therefore Sheila could have done it'. However refuse to defend the impossibilities of their scenarios.

[snow66!]

I see Lookout,i didnt know.However i have noticed Adam dosent fully answer a point fully.Eg ,he keeps saying JB addmited he could enter and exit many windows at WHF ,and he did.But JB added that once he exited a window ,he could not secure it from the outside.it is important to add that point to the statement.Also ,Adam only answers some questions.When i asked him about Anthony Ps statement about the silencer never being off Nev/JBs rifle ,he did not give me an answer.

[Adam]

I see Lookout,i didnt know.However i have noticed Adam dosent fully answer a point fully.Eg ,he keeps saying JB addmited he could enter and exit many windows at WHF ,and he did.But JB added that once he exited a window ,he could not secure it from the outside.it is important to add that point to the statement.Also ,Adam only answers some questions.When i asked him about Anthony Ps statement about the silencer never being off Nev/JBs rifle ,he did not give me an answer.

He did say that. He's not going to admit to knowing. Part of his big plan was that WHF was secure from inside.

Anyway it's been proven the kitchen window could be banged secure from outside.

I wonder who told Julie?

[lookout]

I see Lookout,i didnt know.However i have noticed Adam dosent fully answer a point fully.Eg ,he keeps saying JB addmited he could enter and exit many windows at WHF ,and he did.But JB added that once he exited a window ,he could not secure it from the outside.it is important to add that point to the statement.Also ,Adam only answers some questions.When i asked him about Anthony Ps statement about the silencer never being off Nev/JBs rifle ,he did not give me an answer.

I keep asking how JB entered and exited but it never gets answered. Adam's the world's worst and completely ignores something he can't cope with then tootles off to start another of his own threads which he then cheekily expects everyone to answer his questions.

AP's silencer was at WHF along with his rifle which was originally registered to WHF so by law had to be kept there.

[snow66!]

Hi Adam sorry if it seemed i was talking behind your back to Lookout.The problem is i am not up to replying directly to a quote by someone yet. Jane tried to tell me how ,but as yet i have not masrered it yet.As for the windows issue ,i dont think the relatives or the police ever managed to fully secure the kitchen window from outside.Surely this would have been used in evidence against JB instead of the Judge saying it made no difference to the case how he entered or exited.As for telling Julie about the window.Obviously if JB is guilty ,this is true.But as i have not decided yet if JB is guilty or not ,i do not know if she told the truth about this or not.As for Anthonys statement about the sights and moderator never being off JBs rifle ,have you any reply to this Adam.Oh and i will definately answer any questions about my Sheila scenario,although as i say ,i may have trouble doing this directly.You may just have to read through the posts to find my answers to your questions.Anyway i have my Sheila scenario written down on paper,but wont get it printed out tonight on to the forum.Cheers for now.

[snow66!]

Hi again Lookout,Yes ,i have tried to query Mike about this.JB even wrote down a list of the weapons inside WHF that night with his sketch of the house.Anthonys rifle was on that list.Andrew Hunter and others believe or at least hint that both fifles were used that night,and that Anthonys had a magazine capable of holding 15 bullets.Hence Sheila maybe didnt have to re-load much at all.However,somewhere down the line it is stated by the police it was absent from the house that night ,and the official line was that it wasnt habitually kept there.And as i have said to Adam ,it was Anthony who gave a statement that he had never seen JBs rifle with the sights or silencer off.Adam how ever keeps contradicting what Anthony said ,by continually repeating that JB returned the moderator to its USUAL place in the cupboard on the night of the trajedy.So with all this suspicious statements and evidence ,is it any wonder there are so many that doubt JBs guilt.And there are many more anomalies i intend to coment on in future,Oh well thats got that off my chest,Bye for now Lookout and take care.

[lookout]

I don't believe that Sheila had to re-load as there were 15 bullets in one rifle ( AP's BRNO ) and  10 in Nevill's Anchultz rifle. An empty box which had contained bullets was found in the bedroom but never fingerprinted, neither were the bullet casings.

Moderator was never used during the tragedy. It wasn't fingerprinted, but was well contaminated and shouldn't have had a place in court.

[snow66!]

Hi again Lookout.Idid not know an empty bullet box was found in the bedroom,as you know i am a newby and not quite up to speed yet.Bye again for now.

[killingeve]

I don't believe that Sheila had to re-load as there were 15 bullets in one rifle ( AP's BRNO ) and  10 in Nevill's Anchultz rifle. An empty box which had contained bullets was found in the bedroom but never fingerprinted, neither were the bullet casings.

Moderator was never used during the tragedy. It wasn't fingerprinted, but was well contaminated and shouldn't have had a place in court.

Why would Anthony Pargeter leave his mag loaded at WHF?  What evidence exists to support this?

There's no evidence that an empty box was found in the bedroom.  How could something be fingerprinted that didn't exist?

The silencer was fingerprinted. 

[snow66!]

Hi cutie.You seem to be in the know ,so what is your take on the burn marks on Nens back.why were they made.This question never seems to get answered, You say there is no proof they were made on the night of the murders,but i think i read somewhere that it was accepted they were.Adan keeps repeating Neville was lifted up by JB for this sole purpose,So let us assume they were made on the night,can you think of a logical reason JB would have done this.Idont think Adam has given a reason but im not sure.I will be giving a reason why Sheila may have made them,but i cant for the life of me think why JB would have.Any ideas cutie,you must cover all anomalies if your going to convert a doubter.Bye.

[killingeve]

Hi cutie.You seem to be in the know ,so what is your take on the burn marks on Nens back.why were they made.This question never seems to get answered, You say there is no proof they were made on the night of the murders,but i think i read somewhere that it was accepted they were.Adan keeps repeating Neville was lifted up by JB for this sole purpose,So let us assume they were made on the night,can you think of a logical reason JB would have done this.Idont think Adam has given a reason but im not sure.I will be giving a reason why Sheila may have made them,but i cant for the life of me think why JB would have.Any ideas cutie,you must cover all anomalies if your going to convert a doubter.Bye.

I uploaded the trial testimony of Prof Knight, defence pathologist at trial, he was of the opinion the marks were not burns.  He also said Prof Vanezis was unsure. 

Before I read the above I was sceptical about Bamber or Sheila causing the marks on the night of the murders.  It doesn't make sense to me that Bamber would hang around burning Mr Bamber's back.  Nor does it make sense to me that Sheila, in some altered state of mind, would set about burning Mr Bamber's back. 

I think the marks might be unrelated to the night of the murders and relate to old wounds, maybe connected to Mr Bamber's back injury sustained when he crashed his plane in WW2. 

The burns were not used against Bamber at trial as the pathologists were unsure what they were and when they occured.

[Adam]

I uploaded the trial testimony of Prof Knight, defence pathologist at trial, he was of the opinion the marks were not burns.  He also said Prof Vanezis was unsure. 

Before I read the above I was sceptical about Bamber or Sheila causing the marks on the night of the murders.  It doesn't make sense to me that Bamber would hang around burning Mr Bamber's back.  Nor does it make sense to me that Sheila, in some altered state of mind, would set about burning Mr Bamber's back. 

I think the marks might be unrelated to the night of the murders and relate to old wounds, maybe connected to Mr Bamber's back injury sustained when he crashed his plane in WW2. 

The burns were not used against Bamber at trial as the pathologists were unsure what they were and when they occured.

Why would Bamber lift Nevill onto the coal scuttle?

Agree Sheila would not do it. Bamber would to check for signs of life.

[killingeve]

Why would Bamber lift Nevill onto the coal scuttle?

Agree Sheila would not do it. Bamber would to check for signs of life.

No evidence Bamber lifted Mr Bamber onto the coal scuttle.

If Bamber was checking for signs of life what checks did he carry out on the other victims?  Why would he single out Mr Bamber?