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Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« on: January 10, 2022, 12:32:AM »
In my initial research on this case, I have come across Neil Wilby again, albeit tangentially.  This is not the first time I have had reason to look at his site.  He does good work, but there are aspects of what he does that I disagree with and will touch on here.  I can't find anything by him on the Luke Mitchell case itself, but he has written about Sandra Lean and her efforts on other cases. 

Dr. Lean is a central figure in this case, so for completeness, I link below to Mr Wilby's articles mentioning her - for general interest.   Frankly, I think they say more about Neil Wilby than Dr. Lean.  The pieces are quite long, and so to assist the reader, I was going to quote the relevant parts, but on reflection, I have decided not to, as his comments border on libel.  Even the title of one of the pieces, 'Dr Truthseeker loses her moral compass', is sailing close to the wind, in my view.

It does not surprise me that Mr Wilby has a user account on the Red Forum and has posted on there (and he may well have discussed Luke Mitchell on there, I haven't checked yet).  In some respects, I agree with his approach to things.  For instance, I admire that he maintains his journalistic independence and does not act as a mouthpiece for campaigns as some journalists do.  However, his approach is very journalistic.  Reading through his articles, he falls into the trap of thinking he is judge and jury, rather than sticking strictly to the question of legal safety.  This, of course, is his right.  It's not a criticism, just an observation.  Like most journalists (and police officers), he seems to latch on to one side or another, often for personal reasons, and interprets the facts and evidence through whatever is his adopted bias.  Inevitably, he then slips into personal attacks with people who take a different view to his own, because in his eyes they are defending the interests of 'murderers' and disregarding the families of victims.  Mr Wilby also has a strange idiosyncracy in his writing of occasionally referring to himself in the third person while boasting that he has established some point or other or exposed somebody.

In the case of Robin Garbutt, I understand campaigners didn't reply to his questions, so he has drawn inferences.  Drawing inferences is fine, but reading through his articles on the Garbutt case, there is a definite tone of personal antagonism, which he directs at individuals connected with the campaign.  He doesn't seem to appreciate that campaigners for alleged miscarriages of justice will want to put across the best possible case in public and that this is just a fact of life that has to be accepted, not an excuse to launch personal attacks on them as individuals.

I think it is likely that Mr Wilby has been a member of this Forum and has engaged with Ms. Lean on here.  I do not know this, it's just a suspicion.  Likely candidates are 'Dave6' and 'TheArmchairDetective'.  (Note: In the latter case, I am not suggesting there is any link between that member and the current active member with a similar name).

LINKS TO THE ARTICLES

Note: These links substantively concern the Robin Garbutt case.  I have no particular interest in that case and I do not mean to suggest that Mr Wilby is mistaken in his conclusions about Mr Garbutt (I have no idea one way or the other); and anyway, that case should not be discussed on this sub-forum.  My purpose is only to highlight his comments about a campaigner who is central to the Luke Mitchell case.

Dr Truthseeker loses her moral compass

https://neilwilby.com/2020/06/22/dr-truthseeker-loses-her-moral-compass/

A nest of vipers?

https://neilwilby.com/2020/09/24/a-nest-of-vipers/

Review of February 2021 (refers to Dr. Lean using scare quotes):

https://neilwilby.com/2021/03/04/review-of-february-2021-on-neilwilby-com/

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2022, 12:16:PM »
who is he i have never heard of him.

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2022, 05:25:PM »
who is he i have never heard of him.

He is a freelance investigative journalist with an interest in police and official misconduct and miscarriages of justice.

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2022, 11:13:AM »
ive read abit of his blog he just sounds likesome weirdo with a been in his bonnet

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2022, 11:33:AM »
ive read abit of his blog he just sounds likesome weirdo with a been in his bonnet

I suspect he has multiple accounts on this Forum.

Back in 2014, a police officer in West Yorkshire, Matthew Appleyard, won a libel case against him:

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/huddersfields-neil-wilby-ordered-pay-7331770

Mr Justice Bean found "not a shred of evidence" to support Wilby's allegations against Appleyard.

He does seem quick to make allegations against people.

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2022, 12:35:PM »
so he leary hadno evdene to bak up his cliams agianst this policceman.

that doesnt say muh for his credbility.

i suspect this policeman ha probebly upset him in some way.

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2022, 12:54:PM »
so he leary hadno evdene to bak up his cliams agianst this policceman.

that doesnt say muh for his credbility.

i suspect this policeman ha probebly upset him in some way.

He does seem to like attacking people, but I think we'd better leave it there.  My purpose in this thread is just to highlight what he says about Dr. Lean.  Whether fair or not, accurate or not, she is a central personality in this case.  So there it is.

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2022, 01:10:PM »
Sounds like Tony Bennett who harassed the McCanns

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21534603

Its one thing debating a case on a forum in the virtual world; quite another to take it into the non-virtual world. 


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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2022, 05:09:PM »
Tony Bennet also had a hand in Paul Harrison's book about the WHF murders.

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2022, 05:18:PM »
Tony Bennet also had a hand in Paul Harrison's book about the WHF murders.

Really?  That's interesting to know.

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2022, 08:11:PM »
Really?  That's interesting to know.






Pal of his apparently as both live/ lived in Essex.

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2022, 08:18:PM »





Pal of his apparently as both live/ lived in Essex.

Oh, I thought Paul Harrison lived in the Shetlands or somewhere like that?

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2022, 09:27:PM »
Oh, I thought Paul Harrison lived in the Shetlands or somewhere like that?

At one time he lived on the island of Sanday in Orkney.


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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2022, 10:21:PM »
is he inthe credits lookout.

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Re: Neil Wilby on Sandra Lean
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2022, 10:33:PM »
is he inthe credits lookout.

I have the hard copy and have just checked - yes, it turns out he is credited in there, along with a bunch of other people, all but one I have never heard of.  I must have forgotten.  Mind you, it is a forgettable book, I regret to say.