Counting Conspiracies.

[JackieD]

What is online harassment?


An art Jackie has been practicing since long before I joined this Forum. Probably the reason she's received life bans from other forums, and possibly the reason she has previously been banned from this one. I think these facts speak for themselves.

You are a liar more harrassment.   For legal reasons what forums have I received life bans from

[lookout]

Many from that time and generation had such attitude towards gay, esp in 1985. To be honest many even now  do! I know few. Maybe they do not express as much these days due to being called homophobic. You can't deny that. So they entered as a crime in their note book? I don't think so...

If Boutflour let his spies loose on Bamber and Brett it will be because he suspected Bamber murderered his family, so makes sense. I don't think he sent his spies because he was interested if they were having some wild gay orgy. Do you think any video of this exist Lookout?

RWB definitely thought something was brewing, sexually between the two men and was looking for proof to put in his " diary " as another slight against JB.

[lookout]

RWB definitely thought something was brewing, sexually between the two men and was looking for proof to put in his " diary " as another slight against JB.

Does any video exist at all of all the evidence against JB ?

[JackieD]

Eh? I DID NOT you are a lying monstrosity here, no shame. If you can lie so openly and  blatantly God knows what else you are capable of! Go Sue me too , waiting for the Lady solicitor's letter to get summoned . Hurry hurry Jackie, run .

You keep lying so much you don't know what you
are saying.

There would be no point you have no money and live in a two bedroomed council flat

Show me the post where I bought up the fact Jeremy had sex in prison

[Armchair Detective]

To be fair his superior intellect is obvious

Oh yes, his genius theory that 4 bullet casings got kicked from the kitchen and all the way upstairs to the bedroom was the moment I dropped to my knees and wept, realising I, a mere mortal could never hope to emulate or even understand anything the great man ever said as he clearly operates at a level above all others!

[Jane]

You are a liar more harrassment.   For legal reasons what forums have I received life bans from

Jackie, SHUT UP! I imagine the whole damn Forum is SICK of you making threats of legal action just because you don't like what I say.

[Munksa]

No you are a liar. You bought up the subject. I am responding because like all the other myths on here it will not be true.  There is no proof so why even bring the subject up.  Its ridiculous and probably only bought up to try and get JB in trouble.

Who is the liar?? Tut tut...Na na na na na na, Jackie Pinocchio  na na na na na 🤥🤥🤥

NO ONE mentioned Jeremy and the sex In prison with a woman before YOUR comment ( until comment 53) , I was just replying to Jane about Bonnett/ West call! You butted your Pinocchio nose with the sex topic. Yet again! Surprise surprise.

[Jane]

There would be no point you have no money and live in a two bedroomed council flat

Show me the post where I bought up the fact Jeremy had sex in prison

POST 53. You told us about JB allegedly having sex in prison and getting the female pregnant. In other words, you provided the ammunition.

[JackieD]

Who is the liar?? Tut tut...Na na na na na na, Jackie Pinocchio  na na na na na 🤥🤥🤥

NO ONE mentioned Jeremy and the sex In prison with a woman before YOUR comment ( until comment 53) , I was just replying to Jane about Bonnett/ West call! You butted your Pinocchio nose with the sex topic. Yet again! Surprise surprise.

You are as sick as Jane everyone saw your post when you posted JB got someone pregnant and miscarried are you denying you ever posted that

[Munksa]

You are as sick as Jane everyone saw your post when you posted JB got someone pregnant and miscarried are you denying you ever posted that

Nope! I don't deny,  absolutely not. BUT it was not on this post though , it was few days back on ANOTHER post. Again surprise surprise you brought it up there, yet again! So I added  more info it was not just sex but the lady misscarried....

So?

[lookout]

Lookout will have an answer to each of these.

Yes---Conspiracies are exactly what they are and go straight over my head 

[Jane]

You are as sick as Jane everyone saw your post when you posted JB got someone pregnant and miscarried are you denying you ever posted that

Are you denying you typed Post 53?

[guest29835]

Thanks, I was actually surprised at how long the list got.

I can't in all fairness include that one as it is not a currently promoted conspiracy along with "they were all assassinated because of Nevill's war work" but yes, there are so many conspiracies against poor Jeremy Bamber, he never stood a chance.

I am capable of both long and short posts.

This is a short post: I think you've shown your hand.

[lookout]

Yes---Conspiracies are exactly what they are and go straight over my head 

I'm afraid I don't have time for them as they're usually penned by weak-minded people.

[lookout]

This is a list of conspiracies currently believed and/or promoted by JB and his official campaign team. Feel free to add any I have forgotten or disagree or hijack the thread with long standing personal vendettas that have no relevance to the case. I don't care.

I have tried to resist snarky comments but have failed in places, I think I am such a wit 

1) West, Bonnet, Myall, Saxby and Bews all conspire to hide evidence of Nevill speaking to West from the moment JB eventually speaks to West himself. Other officers may also be involved. The evidence that proves this is shown to the jury.

2) Myall and Bews conspire to lie about the figure in the window. They hypnotise Jeremy into forgetting all about it for several months.

3) Bews radios in a situation report about the figure in the window and calls for armed back up. This information is immediately suppressed from all other officers subsequently at the scene in case they blab to Jeremy. 

4) 5.25 am - Sheila is in conversation with police, multiple officers conspire to keep this information from JB and suppress it afterward.

5) 6.09 am - At the exact time the BT operator transfers the open line to Maldon for monitoring, Sheila makes a 999 call. It is unclear if this vital information reaches the officers at the scene or if suppressing the 999 call is the action of one rogue cop. Nevertheless, despite suppressing this information, an ambulance is sent 18 minutes later which is proof of the call and not simply standard procedure for an impending raid where casualties are likely.

6) Throughout the 4 hours of the siege, lights are going on and off and curtains are being opened/closed. Multiple officers carefully watching for movement either fail in their duty to notice any of this or are inveigled into a plot to lie and state there were no signs of life.

7) Just prior to the raid, Sheila is seen through the kitchen window, dead. It is not at all possible that Nevill's body was simply mistaken for a woman's and a non eyewitness misunderstood the situation. 

8 ) As the raid team enter, a reanimated Sheila runs upstairs and shoots herself only once, although she is also still dead in the kitchen because a log entry written by a non eyewitness says so. Schrodinger's Sheila.

9) Some time later but after the police surgeon has been, Sheila is shot for a second time in a bumbling accident. The police panic and think that nobody will believe a two shot suicide and decide framing innocent Jeremy is the only option that definitely won't lead to 36 years of questions and scrutiny of their actions. The TFG statements saying they saw two wounds are clearly lies. Declaring it a murder suicide and giving evidence to that effect at the inquest was all a part of EP's scheme to make themselves look incompetent, thus hiding their mistake with a clever double reverse bluff.

10) A mysterious suicide note mentioned by S Jones. The note in the bible? The "Dear Mummy" letter? No, it can only be a completely different note that was hidden, probably under PII and whatnot because that's automatically dead suspicious.

11) Julie Mugford lies her head off about everything. It's unclear whether JB still says all of her flatmates were lying about the time of his apparently inconsequential and perfectly normal 3am call to Julie now that he has changed his mind about the order of the calls. (again)

11a) But Julie is only lying her head off because Stan Jones had something on her. And because she was a woman scorned. And because she is a horrible witch who should go to prison and be flogged. 

12) The relatives conspire to tell lies about horrid things Jeremy supposedly said because they were all greedy and hated poor Jeremy. Much more serious but unfounded allegations of evidence tampering are insinuated/telegraphed.

12b) The relatives also lie to the court about the inheritance, although an agreed note makes clear to the jury that PB will basically get the lot.

13) Several others also tell lies about the horrid things Jeremy has supposedly said about his parents and not sharing his inheritance although there appears no motive for them to lie, they are lying.

14) Michael Fielder and the Sun newspaper tell horrid lies about JB and BC trying to sell nude photographs of Sheila but this definitely didn't happen because JB says it didn't. It is not possible that JB didn't give all of the photographs to Colin and kept some back. No way. Uh Uh. So you believe a reporter from the sun do you? Yeah right, that's typical of guilters..

15) Everyone at the FSS lab lies to conceal the fact there were 2 silencers and lie about the results,  Vanezis manages to miss or deliberately conceal wounds on Sheila and Prof Knight for the defence is also incompetent.

16) ITV and Carol Ann Lee conspire to make a TV drama to thwart jeremy's appeal because the CCRC are famously influenced by drama's on TV rather than the evidence.

17) Carol Ann Lee lies about the vet saying JB decided to put down Crispy. When CAL challenges the CT to publish the vet's statement and prove her wrong, the CT claim not to have it or have seen it. Animal lovers up and down the country hate poor Jeremy even more.

18)Every Chief Constable of EP since 1985 has concealed the REAL evidence, although it doesn't matter because JB can already prove he is innocent so the CT don't bang on about it endlessly.

19) BT lie in court about whether they have any record of local calls made through the local exchange.

20) The bible went missing during the trial. The fact that it had obviously been closed and reopened while the blood was still wet would not have been detrimental to JB's case and had nothing to do with the apparent sudden loss of interest by the defence.

21) The destruction of Sheila's nightdress and other exhibits preventing further examination with modern forensic techniques. 

22) Individual negatives removed from the previously complete strips. Are these simply photos of the boys that are of no particular value to JB's defence but must not end up in the public domain or is there something more sinister in this?

23) Ainsley and Cook STOLE photos and case documents and shared with Carol Ann Lee and Kris Mrksa the producer of WHF TV series respectively.

24) Bamber was STITCHED UP by the Police due to their attitude towards homosexuality, he had gay friends and could be gay himself!

25) Essex police used the crime scene as a training exercise with the victims in-situ. This definitely counters evidence of a staged scene that wouldn't be at all potentially disastrous for the defence to put before a jury when their client is accused of staging the scene.

26) The appeal court judges all conspired to keep Jeremy in prison even though he is obviously innocent. It's not that he brought a weak and hopelessly flawed case.

27) The police conspired not to tell JB about the lab rejecting Sheila's hand swabs because they may have been contaminated, even though any contamination would have aided Bamber's defence.

28) The police conspired not to tell Jeremy about the time they inspected his own hands roughly a month after the shootings. It's unclear whether JB was present while this was done.

TBC....

Right over my head