Time scale of massacre:

[lookout]

JB might have been everything that people have said about him but he certainly wasn't the type to shoot himself in the foot nor s**t on his own doorstep to put it crudely. Least of all murder 5 people and leave his " calling card " in the cupboard for all to see. A child of 7 would have worked that out.

[Steve_uk]

The Police are not easily fooled Jane, I know they totally messed up this case, but someone who has just shot five people would have given their gilt away long before the police had even entered the house.

I still don't think a silencer was even used that night, if it was JB it would just be a hinderance at close quarters and if it was Sheila she would have just grabbed the gun and used it as it was.

I agree this would have been far more likely had Sheila been the killer. I think Jeremy was worried that Anthony Pargeter would realize a silencer was missing, given that they had both been shooting together outside the previous weekend.

[Adam]

Bamber used the silencer. It was intially a silent massacre attempt at 2am.

After the massacre he put the silencer back where it was always kept - in it's box at the back of the gun cupboard.

There is no issue.

[Steve_uk]

Bamber used the silencer. It was intially a silent massacre attempt at 2am.

After the massacre he put the silencer back where it was always kept - in it's box at the back of the gun cupboard.

There is no issue.

Yes I agree with this.

[Adam]

So you think Sheila, having shot the family, would have taken the silencer off, and put it back in its box -at the back of a cupboard!- before shooting herself? Would not her "'guilt'" have been made obvious by the fact that she was wearing -indeed, almost clutching!- the weapon she'd used?

That could not happen as it was Sheila's blood in the silencer.

[Jane]

Totally WRONG as usual. Trying to mislead any new posters with a completely wrong narrative. Jeremy told the police about Sheila’s mental health problems which ANYONE else in Jeremy’s position would have done.

Are you incapable of telling the truth.

On being told his family were all dead Jeremy blamed the police (which would also fit with seeing movement in the farmhouse)

I suppose you are now going to MAKE UP another bizarre reason Jeremy blamed the police.

You questioned yesterday WHO is still interested in the case

The answer is plenty of people

Do not try to disrupt this forum with lies and mistruths. It’s an absolute disgrace

And you have the temerity to accuse me of attacking you! If the above doesn't constitute such, I don't know what is!

When will you realize that it's you, above anyone else, who causes disruption on this Forum, Jackie? It is  a disgrace, and not only to this Forum.

You ask "Are you incapable of telling the truth?" Do you mean do I tell the sort of lies you've told and continue to tell about poor Julie, borne from a hatred of her bordering on the insane? But you call it truth. I call it twisted.

So let's look at what JB told police, bearing in mind it was he who is alleged to have said that it's always best to tell as much of the truth as possible. Sheila, according to him, had used/fired every gun in the house. Sheila, according to him, had previously attempted suicide. Sheila, according to him was about to go back into hospital.

So he blamed police for having shot his family. Strange, having spent hours convincing them that Sheila was more than capable of such, don't you think? Still, he wouldn't have wanted suspicion falling on him.

By the way, I still believe the guilty/innocent ratio, if taken now, would be little different from that of the jury's.

[Steve_uk]

Totally WRONG as usual. Trying to mislead any new posters with a completely wrong narrative. Jeremy told the police about Sheila’s mental health problems which ANYONE else in Jeremy’s position would have done.

Are you incapable of telling the truth.

On being told his family were all dead Jeremy blamed the police (which would also fit with seeing movement in the farmhouse)

I suppose you are now going to MAKE UP another bizarre reason Jeremy blamed the police.

You questioned yesterday WHO is still interested in the case

The answer is plenty of people

Do not try to disrupt this forum with lies and mistruths. It’s an absolute disgrace

Yes but there was no need to say (lie) that she had recently engaged in target practice.

[JackieD]

And you have the temerity to accuse me of attacking you! If the above doesn't constitute such, I don't know what is!

When will you realize that it's you, above anyone else, who causes disruption on this Forum, Jackie? It is  a disgrace, and not only to this Forum.

You ask "Are you incapable of telling the truth?" Do you mean do I tell the sort of lies you've told and continue to tell about poor Julie, borne from a hatred of her bordering on the insane? But you call it truth. I call it twisted.

So let's look at what JB told police, bearing in mind it was he who is alleged to have said that it's always best to tell as much of the truth as possible. Sheila, according to him, had used/fired every gun in the house. Sheila, according to him, had previously attempted suicide. Sheila, according to him was about to go back into hospital.

So he blamed police for having shot his family. Strange, having spent hours convincing them that Sheila was more than capable of such, don't you think? Still, he wouldn't have wanted suspicion falling on him.

By the way, I still believe the guilty/innocent ratio, if taken now, would be little different from that of the jury's.

So once again you are trying to mislead the forum

Are you actually stating he didn’t blame the police???

I continue to pull your posts apart like I had to prove Colin made out he was getting back with Sheila and point out to you why cheque book journalism is not allowed anymore for obvious reasons

You seem unable to grasp the truth. You have got serious problems. Maybe seek therapy rather than flood this forum with lies

[Jane]

So once again you are trying to mislead the forum

Are you actually stating he didn’t blame the police???

I continue to pull your posts apart like I had to prove Colin made out he was getting back with Sheila and point out to you why cheque book journalism is not allowed anymore for obvious reasons

You seem unable to grasp the truth. You have got serious problems. Maybe seek therapy rather than flood this forum with lies

Once gain you attack me, Jackie. That lack of control problem which Roch spoke of is clearly getting the better of you. May I suggest a change of psychiatrist for you, along with an adjustment of medication.

[Steve_uk]

So once again you are trying to mislead the forum

Are you actually stating he didn’t blame the police???

I continue to pull your posts apart like I had to prove Colin made out he was getting back with Sheila and point out to you why cheque book journalism is not allowed anymore for obvious reasons

You seem unable to grasp the truth. You have got serious problems. Maybe seek therapy rather than flood this forum with lies

He said there was a possibility, that's all.

[JackieD]

Once gain you attack me, Jackie. That lack of control problem which Roch spoke of is clearly getting the better of you. May I suggest a change of psychiatrist for you, along with an adjustment of medication.

Caught out again by lies. How embarrassing for you

Waiting for your response that Jeremy blamed the police for killing his family

The truth hurts

[Jane]

He said there was a possibility, that's all.

And from his descriptions of their last hours together, along with Sheila's friends' reports of her during her last fortnight, and her general lack of care for herself, she wasn't exactly acting like a woman about to reconcile with the love of her life. Whatever Colin may have said were his thoughts of what MAY have been, they occurred AFTER her death. Sheila was never privy to them.

[Jane]

Caught out again by lies. How embarrassing for you

Waiting for your response that Jeremy blamed the police for killing his family

The truth hurts

Where did I say he didn't? It's on record. Perhaps you should attend adult literacy classes? What are all these lies you keep talking about, other than your own?

As for the truth hurting? It's something you'll never have to concern yourself with as you wouldn't know what truth means if it slapped you in the face. But I have to hand it to you. You do an excellent job of disrupting discussion with your drivel.

[Steve_uk]

And from his descriptions of their last hours together, along with Sheila's friends' reports of her during her last fortnight, and her general lack of care for herself, she wasn't exactly acting like a woman about to reconcile with the love of her life. Whatever Colin may have said were his thoughts of what MAY have been, they occurred AFTER her death. Sheila was never privy to them.

I wish the Jeremy supporters would understand the fragile nature of Sheila towards the end of her life: uncertain, unconfident, puffing nervously on cigars and avoiding eye contact, forgetful in personal hygiene matters including body odour and the timing of her period, unable to drive, dependant on her mother's food parcels, unable without supreme effort to walk properly due to medicinal side-effects.

She was a sitting duck for Jeremy and he knew it.

[Jane]

I wish the Jeremy supporters would understand the fragile nature of Sheila towards the end of her life: uncertain, unconfident, puffing nervously on cigars and avoiding eye contact, forgetful in personal hygiene matters including body odour and the timing of her period, unable to drive, dependant on her mother's food parcels, unable without supreme effort to walk properly due to medicinal side-effects.

She was a sitting duck for Jeremy and he knew it.

It certainly doesn't take enormous empathy and compassion to pick up on any of that, Steve. Sadly, for some supporters, they choose either to ignore it or fake it. Any they MAY have is reserved for JB.