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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2021, 12:20:AM »
Even Rob & QC have not suggested why AE would alert Bamber & Julie she was suspicious.

To be fair neither have claimed AE was scouring Europe looking for Julie so AE could insinuate & alert Julie's boyfriend.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2021, 01:28:AM »
There is a mountain of information in Julie's WS which she could have only got from Bamber.

Bamber was Julie's boyfriend for 18 months prior to & 1 month after the massacre. Bamber also rang her 3 times on the massacre night/morning.

So not a surprise Julie knew so much. 

All common sense.

Sorry Adam I don't really understand the point of creating this topic?

JM's first WS was the day after the killings had taken place and there is nothing in this of any consequence. Her next WS was one month latter, during which time she could have picked up snippets of information from all over the place.



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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2021, 11:28:AM »
Sorry Adam I don't really understand the point of creating this topic?

JM's first WS was the day after the killings had taken place and there is nothing in this of any consequence. Her next WS was one month latter, during which time she could have picked up snippets of information from all over the place.

This is what the thread is about.

Me and David agree none of the 19 pieces of exclusive information in Julie's WS, she got from the police or the following days newspapers.

The logical explanation is Bamber told Julie.

However David is claiming AE gave Julie a couple of pieces of information. But does not know why AE would alert Bamber & Julie she was suspicious. He also does not know when or how AE would inform Julie.

Can you answer?
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2021, 12:43:PM »
JM was the one obviously closer to JB so the more information that could be pumped out of JM, the better, whether true or not because a case had to be built against JB by the relatives as they knew nothing about the family dynamics etc.
 The idea was to get as much information that would damage JB irreparably-----all without proof, that was used against him but said in such a way as to convict, and so it went on.

What was fair and just about this ? 

   

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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2021, 12:52:PM »
JM was the one obviously closer to JB so the more information that could be pumped out of JM, the better, whether true or not because a case had to be built against JB by the relatives as they knew nothing about the family dynamics etc.
 The idea was to get as much information that would damage JB irreparably-----all without proof, that was used against him but said in such a way as to convict, and so it went on.

What was fair and just about this ? 

 

So you think the police coaxed a lot of information out of Julie.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2021, 12:54:PM »
So you think the police coaxed a lot of information out of Julie.





You said it !

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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2021, 12:56:PM »




You said it !

Information Bamber gave her.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2021, 12:58:PM »
Information Bamber gave her.






Stop twisting Adam, you're no better than the rogues at trial !

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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2021, 01:05:PM »





Stop twisting Adam, you're no better than the rogues at trial !

Who else but Bamber gave her exclusive information which is in her WS? 

The police & newspapers have been ruled out. Ditto David's AE theory, although that was just a couple of pieces.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2021, 01:07:PM »
Who else but Bamber gave her exclusive information which is in her WS? 

The police & newspapers have been ruled out. Ditto David's AE theory, although that was just a couple of pieces.




Where is this " exclusive information ?" What is it ?

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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2021, 01:12:PM »



Where is this " exclusive information ?" What is it ?

Low house insurance.

Bible by Sheila.

Sheila's shot locations.

Kitchen fight.

Twins asleep.

Sheila putting up no resistance.

Nevill's multiple shots.

June shot in bed.

Kitchen windows.

Portable phone.

Meissen clock.

Twins shot first.

Sheila shot last.

June's sleeping pills.

Sheila & the twins sleeping in different rooms on different nights.

Kitchen argument.

Shooting rabbits.

Sheila shot on parents bed.

Matthew Macdonald.

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David said AE somehow managed to pass on a couple of these to Julie. Then refused to say how, why & when. So this theory has been dismissed.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2021, 01:24:PM »
Don't mean a thing !

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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2021, 01:27:PM »
From the list of items in your list Adam, the only one I find interesting is Sheila being shot on the bed, and only one other person to my knowledge has ever mentioned this is AE?

So are you saying JB lied to JM about Sheila being shot on the bed, or did the Police move her?

JM identified the bodies so would have learned a lot about what happened from this alone.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2021, 01:51:PM »
From the list of items in your list Adam, the only one I find interesting is Sheila being shot on the bed, and only one other person to my knowledge has ever mentioned this is AE?

So are you saying JB lied to JM about Sheila being shot on the bed, or did the Police move her?

JM identified the bodies so would have learned a lot about what happened from this alone.


As JM wasn't next of kin, I very much doubt that anything would have been said about the manner of deaths, other than, perhaps, all had sustained gunshot wounds, which would have been obvious, anyway.

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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2021, 02:30:PM »
From the list of items in your list Adam, the only one I find interesting is Sheila being shot on the bed, and only one other person to my knowledge has ever mentioned this is AE?

So are you saying JB lied to JM about Sheila being shot on the bed, or did the Police move her?

JM identified the bodies so would have learned a lot about what happened from this alone.

Buy what about the clock? Julie had visited WHF plenty of times and would have seen it but let's ignore that.

And what about the low insurance? The Bambers didn't even have insurance as they were tenants and the place was owned by a charity. But nevermind.