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Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« on: December 17, 2021, 06:08:PM »
Julie was Bamber's girlfriend.

There was no internet or mobile phones. There is no evidence of telepathy.

Julie was with Bamber for a month after the massacre. Outside of Essex. Bamber within ear shot of her.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2021, 06:12:PM »
There is a mountain of information in Julie's WS which she could have only got from Bamber.

Bamber was Julie's boyfriend for 18 months prior to & 1 month after the massacre. Bamber also rang her 3 times on the massacre night/morning.

So not a surprise Julie knew so much. 

All common sense.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2021, 06:17:PM »
I agree with David that the police did not feed Julie this information.

If they did, they would have insisted MM was excluded from her WS.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2021, 06:22:PM by Adam »
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2021, 06:21:PM »
Me & David agree none of the below would have been in the following day's newspapers -

Low house insurance.

Bible by Sheila.

Sheila's shot locations.

Kitchen fight.

Twins asleep.

Sheila putting up no resistance.

Nevill's multiple shots.

June shot in bed.

Kitchen windows.

Portable phone.

Meissen clock.

Twins shot first.

Sheila shot last.

June's sleeping pills.

Sheila & the twins sleeping in different rooms on different nights.

Kitchen argument.

Shooting rabbits.

Sheila shot on parents bed.

Matthew Macdonald

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David claims half of it AE could have given to her. Hopefully he will answer the thread questions.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2021, 06:24:PM »
Julie was Bamber's girlfriend.

There was no internet or mobile phones. There is no evidence of telepathy.

Julie was with Bamber for a month after the massacre. Outside of Essex. Bamber within ear shot of her.


The only time, which immediately comes to mind, when Julie and Ann were alone, was when Ann accompanied Julie to identify the bodies. Much has been made of how a nonchalant Julie came out and smoke a cigarette. I imagine she'd have been in shock, although I'm aware that supporters would have her as 'doing it for a larf'. I think it's highly likely she said things to Ann, at that point. I think she'd have needed to -although I doubt she'd have spoken openly about it to Ann- given that at the forefront of her mind would have been the growing realization that Jeremy had been responsible for what she'd just witnessed.

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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2021, 06:29:PM »
The only option is Bamber gave her all of the above information. For the reasons above.

David has added his own option that AE was feeding Julie information. For no apparent reason.

As with his diluted period blood theory, even the CT have not suggested this 
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2021, 06:46:PM »
The only option is Bamber gave her all of the above information. For the reasons above.

David has added his own option that AE was feeding Julie information. For no apparent reason.

As with his diluted period blood theory, even the CT have not suggested this

And with no access to Julie.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2021, 07:03:PM »

The only time, which immediately comes to mind, when Julie and Ann were alone, was when Ann accompanied Julie to identify the bodies. Much has been made of how a nonchalant Julie came out and smoke a cigarette. I imagine she'd have been in shock, although I'm aware that supporters would have her as 'doing it for a larf'. I think it's highly likely she said things to Ann, at that point. I think she'd have needed to -although I doubt she'd have spoken openly about it to Ann- given that at the forefront of her mind would have been the growing realization that Jeremy had been responsible for what she'd just witnessed.
What about at the wake? I am sure their paths would have crossed several times before she went to the police. You just make stuff up. You have no evidence or qualifications to mind read all the actors in this drama. Many of your posts involve you psychoanalysing peoples thoughts and motives. That is ok when related to a piece of evidence but most is your psychobabble.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2021, 07:10:PM »

The only time, which immediately comes to mind, when Julie and Ann were alone, was when Ann accompanied Julie to identify the bodies. Much has been made of how a nonchalant Julie came out and smoke a cigarette. I imagine she'd have been in shock, although I'm aware that supporters would have her as 'doing it for a larf'. I think it's highly likely she said things to Ann, at that point. I think she'd have needed to -although I doubt she'd have spoken openly about it to Ann- given that at the forefront of her mind would have been the growing realization that Jeremy had been responsible for what she'd just witnessed.

That is the only time I can think of when they were alone together.

This was straight after the massacre. Both would be in shock & still digesting what had happened. AE still supportive to Bamber.

AE certainly would not have any inside information she could pass to Julie. Besides which, Julie was Bamber's girlfriend.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2021, 07:14:PM »
The funeral & wake Julie would be with Bamber.

It is also not an appropriate time for AE to start insinuating Bamber.

Hopefully David can confirm how he believes Julie & AE communicated. And why?
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2021, 07:21:PM »
What about at the wake? I am sure their paths would have crossed several times before she went to the police. You just make stuff up. You have no evidence or qualifications to mind read all the actors in this drama. Many of your posts involve you psychoanalysing peoples thoughts and motives. That is ok when related to a piece of evidence but most is your psychobabble.


From what you say, you seem to think we're all puppets. That we have no emotions. You are correct in that they would have met at the funeral and the wake, although they probably weren't alone together in either of those places for long. It follows that, at a wake, even a tiny one held in JB's tiny cottage, people will have shared their thoughts and feelings. As they were mourning an entire family, which included two small boys, it's unlikely to have been a knees-up, don't you think? There will have been thoughts appropriate to the solemn occasion. Better to be qualified to understand what how people are most likely to act under given circumstances, than spout moronic facts which have been bent to how you'd have them be, eh?

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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2021, 07:42:PM »
AE & family were putting all their efforts in trying to persuade Taff Jones.

It was much too risky trying to persuade Julie of anything. She may have encouraged Bamber to commit the massacre & was looking forward to the inheritance. Julie would alert Bamber.
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2021, 07:48:PM »
Hopefully David will answer the -

Why
When
How

questions. He is the only one claiming AE feeded Julie half of the reply 3 list.

He also needs to address the potential massive disadvantages of alerting Julie ( Bambers girlfriend).
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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2021, 07:51:PM »
AE & family were putting all their efforts in trying to persuade Taff Jones.

It was much too risky trying to persuade Julie of anything. She may have encouraged Bamber to commit the massacre & was looking forward to the inheritance. Julie would alert Bamber.


Which makes perfect sense. The family weren't aware of what/how much Julie knew and it's perfectly reasonable to think they may have suspected her of being involved. They'd have been very wary of sharing their own suspicions with her.

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Re: Why/when/how would AE tell Julie anything?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2021, 08:03:PM »

Which makes perfect sense. The family weren't aware of what/how much Julie knew and it's perfectly reasonable to think they may have suspected her of being involved. They'd have been very wary of sharing their own suspicions with her.

Either Bamber was innocent so no point telling Julie anything. She will alert Bamber.

Or Bamber was guilty & Julie was in on it. So no point telling Julie. She will alert Bamber.

As it happened, Julie was aware Bamber was involved, but had not encouraged him.

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