Assessing Jeremy's Campaign Team in 2021/22

[lookout]

These two are not good points as the CCRC application has little to no valid points and the lawyer who signed it off should have done his due diligence.

David have you not listened to the latest podcast ? QC put it on an earlier post of his. It's worth a listen to give you an idea on how the silencer/ s came into being.

[guest29835]

These two are not good points as the CCRC application has little to no valid points and the lawyer who signed it off should have done his due diligence.

David, we don't know that for sure.  I honestly don't know the detail of what is in all of the points.  I do know some of it, and a couple of the points claim to turn the case on its head pretty fundamentally, with supporting evidence; but, I have not seen this supporting evidence, I have only been provided with descriptions or summaries of it.

I have expressed a view privately as to what I believe are the prospects for this CCRC application, but I must admit that is based only on limited information and my general overall impression of things.  I'm reluctant to express a view on the open forum because, as far as I am concerned, we can't predict the outcome of the application with any certainty.

As for the lawyers, I suppose they will submit what they are instructed to submit after giving their advice, and as long as the evidence underpinning submissions is authentic and they are not being asked to do anything unethical, they will adhere to their client's instructions.

[Adam]

David, we don't know that for sure.  I honestly don't know the detail of what is in all of the points.  I do know some of it, and a couple of the points claim to turn the case on its head pretty fundamentally, with supporting evidence; but, I have not seen this supporting evidence, I have only been provided with descriptions or summaries of it.

I have expressed a view privately as to what I believe are the prospects for this CCRC application, but I must admit that is based only on limited information and my general overall impression of things.  I'm reluctant to express a view on the open forum because, as far as I am concerned, we can't predict the outcome of the application with any certainty.

As for the lawyers, I suppose they will submit what they are instructed to submit after giving their advice, and as long as the evidence underpinning submissions is authentic and they are not being asked to do anything unethical, they will adhere to their client's instructions.

Why not publically?

[David1819]

David have you not listened to the latest podcast ? QC put it on an earlier post of his. It's worth a listen to give you an idea on how the silencer/ s came into being.

I have already given my view on these podcasts, and wont be listening. I know very well how the silencer came into being and listening to the podcasts is not going to provide anything useful.

[Adam]

David have you not listened to the latest podcast ? QC put it on an earlier post of his. It's worth a listen to give you an idea on how the silencer/ s came into being.

Yes. Bamber used it & put it away.

The relatives then found it.

[David1819]

David, we don't know that for sure.  I honestly don't know the detail of what is in all of the points.  I do know some of it, and a couple of the points claim to turn the case on its head pretty fundamentally, with supporting evidence; but, I have not seen this supporting evidence, I have only been provided with descriptions or summaries of it.

I have expressed a view privately as to what I believe are the prospects for this CCRC application, but I must admit that is based only on limited information and my general overall impression of things.  I'm reluctant to express a view on the open forum because, as far as I am concerned, we can't predict the outcome of the application with any certainty.

As for the lawyers, I suppose they will submit what they are instructed to submit after giving their advice, and as long as the evidence underpinning submissions is authentic and they are not being asked to do anything unethical, they will adhere to their client's instructions.

To give you an idea.

The supporting evidence for Nevills alleged 999 call is PC West writing the time of JBs call incorrectly.

The supporting evidence for Sheila's alleged ambulance call is the BT operator putting the WHF phone through to Maldon Police station.

I am sure the CCRC will make this clear in a rebuttal. Hence why the CT members apparently look so depressed as of late. 

[Adam]

To give you an idea.

The supporting evidence for Nevills alleged 999 call is PC West writing the time of JBs call incorrectly.

The supporting evidence for Sheila's alleged ambulance call is the BT operator putting the WHF phone through to Maldon Police station.

I am sure the CCRC will make this clear in a rebuttal. Hence why the CT members apparently look so depressed as of late. 

What would you have submitted to the CCRC?

Or do you think there is currently not enough for a submission?

[guest29835]

To give you an idea.

The supporting evidence for Nevills alleged 999 call is PC West writing the time of JBs call incorrectly.

The supporting evidence for Sheila's alleged ambulance call is the BT operator putting the WHF phone through to Maldon Police station.

I am sure the CCRC will make this clear in a rebuttal. Hence why the CT members apparently look so depressed as of late. 

I will reserve judgement about it all until we know the outcome of the application.  I have not seen enough to be able to form a definite view one way or the other that I would want to express on the open forum.

[guest29835]

Why not publically?

It's down to my lack of self-confidence, Adam.  It all started when you didn't recommend me to the CT and it's spiralled from there.  I went into a sulk and I've been upset ever since.

[lookout]

Yes. Bamber used it & put it away.

The relatives then found it.

It was in a dusty box of which the dust had shown no signs of disturbance. In other words it was taken out to be tampered with by the relatives then to use in the conviction of JB when nothing else worked. A silencer was never used in the murders.

[Adam]

It was in a dusty box of which the dust had shown no signs of disturbance. In other words it was taken out to be tampered with by the relatives then to use in the conviction of JB when nothing else worked. A silencer was never used in the murders.

Really?

You said Sheila used a silencer. Then took it off mid massacre.

[David1819]

Yes. Bamber used it & put it away.

The relatives then found it.

That is what they want people to believe.

[lookout]

Really?

You said Sheila used a silencer. Then took it off mid massacre.

Are you sure I said that ?

[lookout]

Strange that the silencer was the focal part of the case yet initially neither DB nor AE even mentioned the silencer until--------after the blame had gone to Sheila for the murders. Work that one out Adam.

[Adam]

Are you sure I said that ?

You said Sheila took the silencer off mid massacre. Her blood then falling into it.