Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.

[Adam]

There was no evidence of Jeremy exhibiting any signs of a struggle.

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It was more of an attack by Bamber. As Nevill's injuries show.

They did wrestle for the rifle.

I have previously done a 5 stage breakdown of the struggle.

[David1819]

There was no evidence of Jeremy exhibiting any signs of a struggle.

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It was more of an attack by Bamber. As Nevill's injuries show.

They did wrestle for the rifle.

I have previously done a 5 stage breakdown of the struggle.

How can they have a wrestle with rifle when Nevill could only move one arm?

[Adam]

David's 10 points to support his claim AE fabricated the silencer are very weak. As I just highlighted.

If that isn't bad enough, he then says AE used diluted period blood!

He then refuses to answer my questions.

[Adam]

How can they have a wrestle with rifle when Nevill could only move one arm?

By Nevill using one arm.

Assuming you are right & he could not use both arms. I have never read this anywhere else.

[guest29835]

To be fair to David & Lookout, they have had long term theories on how Sheila's blood got into the silencer which they have stuck to - 

David through diluted period blood.

Lookout due to Sheila taking off the silencer mid massacre & her blood falling inside. 

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Hopefully QC & Rob will confirm now if they support either of these theories or have alternative theories.

Thanks Adam.  I'm still wavering and hoping you will provide some moral support on this, even if it's the 'hard word' from you and Real Justice to get me in gear.

[Adam]

Thanks Adam.  I'm still wavering and hoping you will provide some moral support on this, even if it's the 'hard word' from you and Real Justice to get me in gear.

Look forward to hearing if you & Rob support David's or Lookout's theories. Or have your own.

Don't forget the police could be included into any fabrication.

[Rob_]

Thought he testified he could not remember.

How could he forget!

It would be "Oh what is this, looks like blood and paint on the silencer"

AE and others "oh lets have a look GOSH yes it's blood!"

[David1819]

By Nevill using one arm.

Assuming you are right & he could not use both arms. I have never read this anywhere else.

You have never read this anywhere else? That comes as no surprise, once again you display your lack of research into this case.

Its on page 14 of the pathologists trial testimony.



Adam, out of curiosity, what case material have you actually studied other than JBs statements, the COA and Roger Wilkes Blood Relations?

[Adam]

You have never read this anywhere else? That comes as no surprise, once again you display your lack of research into this case.

Its on page 14 of the pathologists trial testimony.



Adam, out of curiosity, what case material have you actually studied other than JBs statements, the COA and Roger Wilkes Blood Relations?

I confess I have not read page 14 of the pathologists trial testimony.

No one can accuse you or Mike of not reading every document.

[Adam]

You have never read this anywhere else? That comes as no surprise, once again you display your lack of research into this case.

Its on page 14 of the pathologists trial testimony.



Adam, out of curiosity, what case material have you actually studied other than JBs statements, the COA and Roger Wilkes Blood Relations?

So he used one arm.

Or maybe two. He had been shot 4 times 30 seconds earlier & was now fighting for his life. With the adreleline he may not have noticed the pain.

[Adam]

How do you wrestle for the rifle with one arm? Your good arm grabs hold of the rifle.

Sorted.

The smashed ceiling light, aga scratches & disruption shows the rifle was wrestled for.

[Rob_]

Look forward to hearing if you & Rob support David's or Lookout's theories. Or have your own.

Don't forget the police could be included into any fabrication.

You expect me to believe the impossible Adam that's the problem with your view of events.

Four or five officers search the cupboard and miss the silencer, one says he was not trained to spot a silencer 

There is no evidence looking at Sheila's wounds she was shot with the silencer on the gun but her blood is in the silencer.

The relatives find the silencer and instead of taking this valuable exhibit directly to the Police it goes all round the Moon, then no one can remember when the blood, paint hair was first noticed and no one can remember who notified the Police.

It was this exhibit alone that turned the whole case from four murders and a suicide to five murders 

[guest29835]

Look forward to hearing if you & Rob support David's or Lookout's theories. Or have your own.

Don't forget the police could be included into any fabrication.

Thanks Adam, but I've lost my self-confidence and I'm still sulking because you didn't recommend me for the CT.

I need a safe space on the Forum where only you are allowed to dissect my posts, in a supportive and constructive way, with the occasional 'hard word', as part of your moral support.

We could call it the Baby Forum.

I'm going for a cry now.

[Adam]

You expect me to believe the impossible Adam that's the problem with your view of events.

Four or five officers search the cupboard and miss the silencer, one says he was not trained to spot a silencer 

There is no evidence looking at Sheila's wounds she was shot with the silencer on the gun but her blood is in the silencer.

The relatives find the silencer and instead of taking this valuable exhibit directly to the Police it goes all round the Moon, then no one can remember when the blood, paint hair was first noticed and no one can remember who notified the Police.

It was this exhibit alone that turned the whole case from four murders and a suicide to five murders 

So do you believe David's or Lookout's silencer scenarios. Or have your own.

Time to 'man up' & stop hiding.

[Rob_]

So do you believe David's or Lookout's silencer scenarios. Or have your own.

Time to 'man up' & stop hiding.

I will look at your list of questions which you posted earlier when I get time Adam, I am off to work soon.

The blood, paint on / in the silencer was planted, no doubt about it in my view.