Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.

[Adam]

Must be a pretty powerful weapon to get through all the fat & muscle on a pig to bring up bone fragments.

Not sure what that has got to do with a rifle used for shooting rabbits. Nevill needing 8 shots.

[David1819]

For God's sake !!

Ridiculous isn't it?  There have been talks lately about starting another forum because of this. That way NGB can have Adam all to himself.   

[Adam]

Why is David ignoring queries to his 'sequence of events' thread post?

He can't just pretend they don't exist.

[Adam]

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If he believes AE fabricated the silencer,  he must have answers. Preferably with sources to back it up.

Just posting his sequence & then saying 'that's it' just suggests he's on a wind up. It's no secret he was a hardcore guilter.

[David1819]

Why is David ignoring queries to his 'sequence of events' thread post?

He can't just pretend they don't exist.

I will only answer valid queries. Not trolling masquerading as queries.

[Adam]

I will only answer valid queries. Not trolling masquerading as queries.

David you must stop being a prat.

You can't post something, then ignore questions. That is called lying.

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If he believes AE fabricated the silencer,  he must have answers. Preferably with sources to back it up.

Just posting his sequence & then saying 'that's it' just suggests he's on a wind up. It's no secret he was a hardcore guilter.

The Gish Gallop is the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. The Gish Gallop is a belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop. The Gish Gallop is named after creationist Duane Gish, who often abused it.

Gish Gallops are almost always performed with numerous other logical fallacies baked in. The myriad of component arguments constituting the Gallop may typically intersperse a few perfectly uncontroversial claims — the basic validity of which are intended to lend undue credence to the Gallop at large — with a devious hodgepodge of half-truths, outright lies, red herrings and straw men — which, if not rebutted as the fallacies they are, pile up into egregious problems for the refuter."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

Done

[Adam]

David you must stop being a prat.

You can't post something, then ignore questions. That is called lying.

Of course the rest of the forum is entitled to answer my queries to David's posts.

However he is the only crank making them so no one else has responded.

Even David refuses to answer questions to his own 'sequence of events'!

[David1819]

Must be a pretty powerful weapon to get through all the fat & muscle on a pig to bring up bone fragments.

Not sure what that has got to do with a rifle used for shooting rabbits. Nevill needing 8 shots.

What fat and muscle? The pigs were shot in the head.

"Test shots on live pigs destined for slaughter showed that bone particles are a feature of backspatter from close-range shots to heads. Contamination of nearby surfaces by bone fragments and bone-plus-bullet fragments, as well as other organic debris, appears to be quite heavy."

[Adam]

What fat and muscle? The pigs were shot in the head.

"Test shots on live pigs destined for slaughter showed that bone particles are a feature of backspatter from close-range shots to heads. Contamination of nearby surfaces by bone fragments and bone-plus-bullet fragments, as well as other organic debris, appears to be quite heavy."

My error.

Well done for responding to one of my posts to your 'sequence' thread post. Only another 16 left.

What rifle was used on the pigs?

[Adam]

August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

August 8th:

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.

And so, to summarise AE had the means motive and opportunity to contaminate the sound moderator in order to incriminate JB.

At the moment I have posted 37 obstacles to this 'sequence of events'. On this thread.

One of my posts had more than one obstacle.

Obviously David needs to adequately address these. It is his long term belief that AE fabricated the silencer without police assistance.   

[David1819]

Strange how Adam seems so concerned about the relatives contaminating the silencer when he claims there are 70 other pieces of evidence bullshit out there. What's the problem if just one piece is planted? 

[Adam]

Strange how Adam seems so concerned about the relatives contaminating the silencer when he claims there are 70 other pieces of evidence bullshit out there. What's the problem if just one piece is planted? 

Yes there are 74 pieces of forensic evidence. Most taken from the court of appeal.

Your one piece - AE fabricated the silencer. Although you can't address any of the 37 obstacles.

Bring back Trudie & her cake baking.

[Adam]

David does not trust the legal system. He does not accept evidence in the COA.

A pity he creates a thread regarding his long term view. Then refuses to answer questions!

[David1819]

Its also worth pointing out that majority of Adam "questions" I have already answered and corrected him on in the past. But as per usual Adam just pretends it never happens and asks the same questions over and over again. I am sure QC will agree with me.