Bamber's reaction to Nevill's 11 words.

[guest29835]

I can translate, though I have no desire to persecute CC on here. I suppose I will just have to try and adjust my responses to her and be less abrasive.

You have nothing to be sorry about.  I was slow-on-the-uptake and didn't realise what she was.

[guest29835]

Where does it indicate that I'm implying such?

Okay. Just had a re-read. I said "the person" -in this case, being her mother- assuming it would be recognized to whom I referred.

I agree that if Sheila did this, it looks a little odd that she killed herself in the main bedroom, as opposed to the twins' room, but I wouldn't say that point is fatal to Jeremy's position.  It could be that she wasn't thinking much about that at the time and maybe she was ashamed of what she had done.  Her body was also found some distance away from June, on the other side of the bed.

[Adam]

I'm dishing out to you what you have been dishing out here for years, with apparently impunity.  You cruelly mocked Mike for years with your snide and nasty 'Thanks Mike' jibe, but now I give you the same treatment, you don't like it and you loudly object and bring the moderator into it.

You have also been repeatedly snide towards me, so I now respond in kind and again, you don't like it.

Jane and others mention nothing about all this history and act as if you are a bone fide poster, when you are clearly not.  On your own admission, you lied about your reasons for joining and your stance.

Come on, you don't fool me, even if you have fooled others here who should know better.

If I had been dishing it out before you arrived, what's it got to do with you?

Not sure why you feel you have to troll me due to whatever it is you think I did before you arrived.

Every poster on here can recieve or dish it out. Most would prefer to discuss the case.

And if you don't like me dissecting your long posts, don't post them.

[Adam]

My last 'Thanks Mike' was Feb 2020. Prior to that it was 2018!

I thanked Mike as he said he was going to do things.

[guest29835]

If I had been dishing it out before you arrived, what's it got to do with you?

Not sure why you feel you have to troll me due to whatever it is you think I did before you arrived.

Every poster on here can recieve or dish it out. Most would prefer to discuss the case.

And if you don't like me dissecting your long posts, don't post them.

Oh, come on!  I was targeted on here from the moment I began posting.  Everybody here knows that.  Please stop this charade.

I don't mind having my posts dissected at all, and I welcome anybody pointing out where I have gone wrong.  That's implied in debate and discussion.  It's a separate issue.  Your attempts to conflate it and brand me a 'cry baby' are completely transparent. 

With some posters on here, it's a pleasure to interact with them.  With you, and one or two others, it's not.  Instead, it's unpleasant.  Anybody would think I was the killer at White House Farm, the way some people carry on. One or two have promoted themselves to unofficial advocates for people caught up in it and act like I am insulting them personally, just for having a different opinion.   It's absurd and ridiculous, all of it.

I love how I am accused of being 'personal' by people who clearly take the case personally and seem to have made it their whole lives!

Everybody here knows what I am talking about.  I need not elaborate further. 

[Adam]

Nevill's eleven words meant everybody at WHF was in danger. Mother, father, nephews & Sheila.

Maybe Bamber should have gone over. Three of Nevill's 11 words after spending a long time waiting for Bamber to answer the phone were -'Please come over'.

[guest7363]

Nevill's eleven words meant everybody at WHF was in danger. Mother, father, nephews & Sheila.

Maybe Bamber should have gone over. Three of Nevill's 11 words after spending a long time waiting for Bamber to answer the phone were -'Please come over'.

You can’t or don’t react to something that’s not true Adam.  He probably didn’t even want to attend, he made no suggestion of going, they asked him to meet the Police there.  Far better if he kept away at this stage, it would mean less play acting for him and less questioning on the scene for him.

[guest7363]

You can’t or don’t react to something that’s not true Adam.  He probably didn’t even want to attend, he made no suggestion of going, they asked him to meet the Police there.  Far better if he kept away at this stage, it would mean less play acting for him and less questioning on the scene for him.

He could have said nothing and waited while morning, but he would have become number one suspect straight away, far better if he invents the phone call from his Father and can distance himself from the crime scene. It’s one of the decisions he had to make, it was the best one because it nearly worked.

[Rob_]

He could have said nothing and waited while morning, but he would have become number one suspect straight away, far better if he invents the phone call from his Father and can distance himself from the crime scene. It’s one of the decisions he had to make, it was the best one because it nearly worked.

If he is guilty and invents the call from Nevil surely he would have dialed 999? This is his best course of action in my view?

He became flustered and unsure, maybe he thought if he went straight over he would be one of the first victims if Sheila is in meltdown?

[guest7363]

If he is guilty and invents the call from Nevil surely he would have dialed 999? This is his best course of action in my view?

He became flustered and unsure, maybe he thought if he went straight over he would be one of the first victims if Sheila is in meltdown?

I think it will always be debatable the 999 call Rob and one can interpret different scenarios from it.  I think this was the first thing that the police officers would have had red flags about?  Bews asked him this straight away!

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3132.0;attach=38125

[Adam]

If he is guilty and invents the call from Nevil surely he would have dialed 999? This is his best course of action in my view?

He became flustered and unsure, maybe he thought if he went straight over he would be one of the first victims if Sheila is in meltdown?

So that's why Nevill rang him & said 'please come over'.

[Adam]

Nevill saying 'please come over' means one or all of the following -

He wanted Bamber to come over within the next 10 minutes. 

Nevill had already rang the police.

He did not want to ring the police. As he 'wanted to keep family matters private'. This is what Bamber told the police.

He did not want to ring the police as he felt the two of them could restrain Sheila.

He did not want to ring the police as he felt himself & June could control or negate the situation until/before Bamber arrived.

Nevill had already got help from the Foakes who were a few yards away, but also wanted Bamber there.

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What did Bamber do? He did not 'come over' & he 'rang the police'.

[Adam]

Nevill does contradict the 'please come over' a bit afterwards saying 'Sheila's gone crazy and she's got the gun'. Before putting the phone down.

Poor Jeremy just wanted a good nights sleep but didn't know if he was in Goldhanger or Tim buck two. So rang Julie & looked for the number of the sixth furthest away police station.

[Adam]

There is nothing on the OS about any of Bamber's 3 calls that night/morning to Julie. 

In police interviews he said 'no comment' regarding the 3am call.

The 10pm call he was very evasive about, eventually saying Julie was right & he had been on a tractor that day.

If he had not testified, there would have been 36 years of silence. On three very important calls.

In court he said he rang Julie to 'hear a friendly voice' - at 3am!

[lookout]

It wouldn't have entered JB's head that a non-999 call would look suspicious. It's all in the minds of those who say he's guilty.