Nevill's call to Bamber. What was Sheila doing?

[Adam]

Nevill's call to Chelmsford Police would be long.

He would have to give his name, address & describe what was happening. Allowing time for the police to write notes.

[Adam]

Goodness knows what Sheila was doing during the 11/21 minutes between Nevill's call to Bamber & then Chelmsford Police.

His first call to Bamber only lasted 5 seconds!

This is really a question for Rob & Lookout.

QC's scenario does not have Nevill calling the police. JackieD just focuses on Julie.

[lookout]

I'm just being as ridiculous as you are.

[lookout]

You've gone out of your way to patronise this forum with your nonsensical posts so that's all the answers you'll be getting from me from now on !!

[Adam]

You've gone out of your way to patronise this forum with your nonsensical posts so that's all the answers you'll be getting from me from now on !!

You & Rob need to give answers to both periods. What was Sheila doing -

While Nevill phoned Bamber.

The 11/21 minute gap between Nevill's call to Bamber & Chelmsford Police.

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To be fair you have answered the first one. Sheila was holding a rifle in Nevill's ear.

[Adam]

All guilters need to answer the first question.

Nevill had decided to call Bamber. The call would have taken several minutes. What was Sheila doing during this time period?

[guest7363]

All guilters need to answer the first question.

Nevill had decided to call Bamber. The call would have taken several minutes. What was Sheila doing during this time period?

Didn’t Rob say she was shooting the boys one bullet each for the twins and then one bullet for June but shooting Nevill was an accident?

[Roch]

All guilters need to answer the first question.

Nevill had decided to call Bamber. The call would have taken several minutes seconds. What was Sheila doing during this time period?

Going berserk.

[Adam]

Going berserk.

Please elaborate.

It would have taken several seconds to dial Bambers number. Then several minutes waiting for Bamber to -

Awaken from the downstairs ringing phone. While sleeping 'like a log'.

Realise the phone was ringing.

Check the time.

Decide whether to ignore the call or answer.

Get out of bed & put on footwear/dressing gown.

Go downstairs and answer.

[Adam]

Didn’t Rob say she was shooting the boys one bullet each for the twins and then one bullet for June but shooting Nevill was an accident?

Nevill was on the phone waiting for Bamber to answer while this was happening?

[Roch]

Please elaborate.

It would have taken several seconds to dial Bambers number. Then several minutes waiting for Bamber to -

Awaken from the downstairs ringing phone. While sleeping 'like a log'.

Realise the phone was ringing.

Check the time.

Decide whether to ignore the call or answer.

Get out of bed & put on footwear/dressing gown.

Go downstairs and answer.

It's not possible to know exactly how things played out. If could see the full contents of the original SC file, it might help a bit.

[guest7363]

All guilters need to answer the first question.

Nevill had decided to call Bamber. The call would have taken several minutes. What was Sheila doing during this time period?

Could she have spent her last few minutes with the boys before shooting them, but I suppose this means Nevill just let her wonder off in a rage with the rifle upstairs? 

[guest29835]

Could she have spent her last few minutes with the boys before shooting them, but I suppose this means Nevill just let her wonder off in a rage with the rifle upstairs?

Nevill would never let her wander off, armed or not, yet we have the fact that, if we accept Jeremy's defence, Nevill has to make a phone call to Jeremy at some point.  This can only mean that Sheila was with Nevill or close by when Nevill made the call.  There is also the uncontested fact that the boys were asleep when shot.  I think the facts default to her not spending time with them.

I believe my scenario stands.  I do not say Jeremy is innocent, but in broad terms, it is the only plausible alternate scenario if Jeremy is innocent.

In response to Adam's poll, I say Sheila was standing in the kitchen, opposite Nevill, with the rifle, as Nevill made his call to Jeremy.  When Jeremy answers, she runs out of the kitchen and Nevill follows her, terminating his call with Jeremy.

[guest7363]

All guilters need to answer the first question.

Nevill had decided to call Bamber. The call would have taken several minutes. What was Sheila doing during this time period?

Bamber said she was going crazy so this could mean she’s shouting and screaming, but when you add the fact he said she’s got the gun this is more life threatening and he wouldn’t want to let her venture out of sight?

[guest7363]

Nevill would never let her wander off, armed or not, yet we have the fact that, if we accept Jeremy's defence, Nevill has to make a phone call to Jeremy at some point.  This can only mean that Sheila was with Nevill or close by when Nevill made the call.  There is also the uncontested fact that the boys were asleep when shot.  I think the facts default to her not spending time with them.

I believe my scenario stands.  I do not say Jeremy is innocent, but in broad terms, it is the only plausible alternate scenario if Jeremy is innocent.

In response to Adam's poll, I say Sheila was standing in the kitchen, opposite Nevill, with the rifle, as Nevill made his call to Jeremy.  When Jeremy answers, she runs out of the kitchen and Nevill follows her, terminating his call with Jeremy.

Im giving different scenarios that’s all, I’ve addressed the fact Nevill wouldn’t let her venture out of sight thanks.