Evidence relatives dismantled silencer & Robert Boutflour's blood contaminated?

[Adam]

We had a discussion on this not long ago, though there are several of your JB scenario's on the forum.

I am not trying to make it hard, it's just that JB has to avoid detection, and to me this is difficult very difficult.

I really only have one scenario. I updated it this month to include the silencer removal.

[Rob_]

I really only have one scenario. I updated it this month to include the silencer removal.

If I agreed with it I would say, not trying to be awkward, I think he would go on foot not cycle for example. But the shot to Sheila puzzles me the most how was this done?

[killingeve]

We had a discussion on this not long ago, though there are several of your JB scenario's on the forum.

I am not trying to make it hard, it's just that JB has to avoid detection, and to me this is difficult very difficult.

In what way do you think it was difficult to avoid detection?

[David1819]

Wrong.

I had Bamber shoot Sheila twice. Go downstairs. Put the silencer away. Then burn Nevill's back.

He can't remove the silencer before the kitchen fight. The aga paint is on it.

Then how does he create the rifle barrel marks on Nevills forearm?

Vanezis autopy notes -

"There is a collection of bruises on right forearm
_____ of end of barrel of rifle
Area of bruising 2"x 4" Slight bruising around elbow"

[killingeve]

Then how does he create the rifle barrel marks on Nevills forearm?

Vanezis autopy notes -

"There is a collection of bruises on right forearm
_____ of end of barrel of rifle
Area of bruising 2"x 4" Slight bruising around elbow"

I think the pathologist refers to a "blunt instrument".  What's the difference between the barrel of the rifle or the silencer?

[David1819]

I think the pathologist refers to a "blunt instrument".  What's the difference between the barrel of the rifle or the silencer?

His notes state "end of barrel of rifle"   

The end of the barrel is small and threaded. The silencer is large and smooth.

[killingeve]

His notes state "end of barrel of rifle"   

The end of the barrel is small and threaded. The silencer is large and smooth.

He only refers to a "blunt instrument" nothing about threaded ends.   

[Adam]

If I agreed with it I would say, not trying to be awkward, I think he would go on foot not cycle for example. But the shot to Sheila puzzles me the most how was this done?

Six miles of walking before & after the massacre is a lot. Easier & quicker to cycle. Several cycle routes.

No one believes Bamber's reason for taking June's bike just before the massacre - Julie can cycle to the train station when going home.

[Adam]

If I agreed with it I would say, not trying to be awkward, I think he would go on foot not cycle for example. But the shot to Sheila puzzles me the most how was this done?

Bamber's massacre vision was everyone would die or be negated within the first 11 shots.

A kitchen fight he was not expecting.

[lookout]

Six miles of walking before & after the massacre is a lot. Easier & quicker to cycle. Several cycle routes.

No one believes Bamber's reason for taking June's bike just before the massacre - Julie can cycle to the train station when going home.

After 17 hours of working in rape fields, harvesting, I doubt a triathlon was on JB's mind !

[Adam]

Then how does he create the rifle barrel marks on Nevills forearm?

Vanezis autopy notes -

"There is a collection of bruises on right forearm
_____ of end of barrel of rifle
Area of bruising 2"x 4" Slight bruising around elbow"

Nevill was beaten by the back of the rifle.

The silencer was taken off prior to burning Nevill's back. As Bamber says himself.

He may have used another instrument to burn Nevill's back. However still decided to remove the silencer & put it away. For obvious reasons.

[Adam]

After 17 hours of working in rape fields, harvesting, I doubt a triathlon was on JB's mind !

Bamber had been sitting on his tractor all day. He had several hours to recover before the massacre.

Agree he would want to get to/from WHF as quickly & easily as possible.

[lookout]

Nevill was beaten by the back of the rifle.

The silencer was taken off prior to burning Nevill's back. As Bamber says himself.

He may have used another instrument to burn Nevill's back. However still decided to remove the silencer & put it away. For obvious reasons.

Why would JB carry on beating his father when the poor man would have been half dead ?

Again, the burns are something else which has been solved and is among the submissions.

[Adam]

Why would JB carry on beating his father when the poor man would have been half dead ?

Again, the burns are something else which has been solved and is among the submissions.

The fight lasted until Nevill had been negated.

Bamber's blows had tremendous force. He may have thrown a couple of blows more than he needed to. Due to adrelelin. It was a fight to the death.

[lookout]

The fight lasted until Nevill had been negated.

Bamber's blows had tremendous force. He may have thrown a couple of blows more than he needed to. Due to adrelelin. It was a fight to the death.

Sheila had more strength both physically and mentally in their early years as JB was quite a wimp, with Sheila fighting his battles when he was bullied among other children. It was never in JB to display violence at any time whereas Sheila had been the feisty one and remained that way throughout her short life.